The Instigator
glowingdisco
Pro (for)
Losing
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The Contender
Noumena
Con (against)
Winning
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Homosexuality is a Behavior, Not An Identity

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Noumena
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/15/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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glowingdisco

Pro

For starters, I am not a homophobic individual or nothing of that matter.
Homosexual people, in my opinion, are no different from any others.

But my argument is that homosexuality is not an identity, but it is a behavior.

I am not saying that one should say "I practice homosexuality" over the preferred "I am gay."

But I am stating that homosexuality is not an identity.
Noumena

Con

The resolution here defended by Pro is logically inconsistent in itself, the reason being that Pro is presuming an either/or relationship between the propositions "Homosexuality is a behavior" and "Homosexuality is an identity". Since, as I will show in my argument, one of the above propositions being true doesn't necessitate (or show) that the other is false, the resolution is akin to the proposition "The present King of France is bald." That is, it is impossible to justify because the proposition itself rests on an error of language.

===Behavior vs. Identity===

Let's take an example first to explain how something can be both a behavior and an identity. Sky-divers, owing to the niche nature of the activity, will often times identity themselves in some sense by the activity they practice. This isn't to say of course that that is the only aspect of their identity. Far from it, it is only one of the factors which lends itself to the overarching identity of the person. Likewise, owing to a variety of factors (historical and contemporary discrimination [a fact which lends itself to the development of homosexuality as a niche in many cases], community, and the fact that outside forces in society themselves have historically viewed homosexuality as a relevant identity marker), homosexuality has become in some sense (relative to the individual of course) become an identifying marker of LGBT peoples. This is true even when taking into account that homosexual acts are themselves behaviors.

===Either/Or===

But to move back to the problem with the resolution itself, Pro is incapable of defending the resolution if my point obtains. That is, if homosexuality can be *both* a behavior and an identity (in many cases) than arguing that it is one over the other amounts to incoherency. I have no intention here of arguing that homosexuality isn't a behavior. In large part it would seem more a matter of semantics than of genuine investigation. If Pro is unable to refute the above point that homosexuality (and other activities) can logically be a member of both sets (behavior and identity) than the resolution fails to uphold.
Debate Round No. 1
glowingdisco

Pro

Yes I should rephrase this or whatever;

Debate cancelled.
Noumena

Con

I'll ask Airmax to delete this.
Debate Round No. 2
glowingdisco

Pro

Thank you.
Noumena

Con

Don't blink.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by missmedic 3 years ago
missmedic
homophobic implies fear, when actually your just an ahole.
Posted by GeekiTheGreat 3 years ago
GeekiTheGreat
Then you are basically saying that being straight is a behavior too. So i act gay? well you act straight.
Posted by yuiru 3 years ago
yuiru
Many make sexuality part of who they are, it is irrational behavior.
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Vote Placed by Controverter 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro failed to display a view that I think is important to convey well in this day and age. I am ashamed at how pro presented the truth as a lie and failed to back it up when confronted by a straw man fallacy of con. Nonetheless, it is with regret that I vote con.
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Reasons for voting decision: countering YYW, the correct vote for that RFD would be a single point conduct vote.
Vote Placed by YYW 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Implicit concession on PRO's part.