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Badtothebone
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Jonathan_T
Con (against)
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Homosexuals and every other sexual has rights like everyone else

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Started: 5/9/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Badtothebone

Pro

Why do we judge those that are different from us? They deserve to be treated normally
Jonathan_T

Con

I would like to accept the argument though I would first like to claim that my voice in this debate doesn't specify me as supporting or opposing equal rights among sexual orientations outside of the debate.

Next, I would like to define the conditions or variables to this debate in that;

Us: Heterosexuals

Different from us: People who practice non-heterosexual preferences. This excludes people such as pansexuals, bisexuals, etc who live lives through heterosexual acts.

Treated Normally: Have the same legal rights in the United States of America
Debate Round No. 1
Badtothebone

Pro

Every sexual can decide what they want and who they want to marry simply because we are all humans and the change of a role doesn't make them unqualified for a job
Jonathan_T

Con

Ignoring religion for the sake of this debate in regards to creationism vs darwinism, I will base my reasoning off of our science which shows that humans are merely animals and should follow the laws of evolution which dictate natural selection. Based off of this principle, our motive for living is to increase our chance at survival to have the ability to produce more offspring [1]. Performing any other sexual preference besides heterosexual actions would mean a negative effect towards the chance of reproduction, which their change in role makes them unqualified for improving the human genetically.

Furthermore, marriage is a religious affiliation and was defined originally from the Bible, altering this definition to accommodate to modern preferences would be breaking the freedom of religion specified in the Constitution by legally redefining a key aspect of their religion. Additionally, in the Bible it specifies that the act of marriage must be, between a man and a woman plus condemning acts of homosexuality.

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Debate Round No. 2
Badtothebone

Pro

Good point con, but we aren't dependent at reproduction for our survival the time. This means that those who are not heterosexual can freely choose who they want to be with. If they aren't openly gay then we won't know in the first place that they are. Who are we to judge someone, not by their actions or religion for the matter but how they feel their gender role should be. If they are happy with themselves, and not hurting anyone why should we force them to be someone they are not?
Jonathan_T

Con

I agree with you that we are not currently dependent on reproduction for survival but currently in the US, we are around a growth rate of 1% which is actually pretty good but unfortunately this would decrease with the full equality to them.

Additionally, i agree that if they aren't openly gay then we won't know in the first place, well that's true and i may be misinterpreting your message with this so i'll wait to refute this.

Once again, are you arguing moral standards among gender equality or arguing gender sexual preference? With today's science, you are born as one gender and even the best sex-change operations aren't enough to completely convert you to the opposite gender and what I mean by this is that, if you are born male, you will never be able to give birth. Morally speaking, its to preserve peace if you fully extinguish the concept of gender boundaries due to personal preference, then what would stop someone from picking a gender identity one day and another gender the next (using day to represent an interval of time rather then strictly 24 hours) due to its a state of psychological and emotional mentality that does have the possibility of changing.

Furthermore, you discuss if people are happy with themselves and not hurting anyone why should we force them to be someone they are not; scientifically speaking they are what biology makes them; male and female suppose to reproduce with the opposite gender, whether they want to believe it or not, they are. Now luckily, our legal system isn't strictly based off of scientific standards, its also founded upon moral principles which typically are developed from society. Based off of statistics, we know that 78.4% of US Adult Citizens are Christians [1], which follow the Bible which specifically states that homosexuality is an abomination (Leviticus 18:22). Now based off of these two principles, it would be scientifically and morally wrong to provide equal legal rights.
Debate Round No. 3
Badtothebone

Pro

Badtothebone forfeited this round.
Jonathan_T

Con

Can't really provide any further arguments if you don't provide a refutal
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by StevenDixon 4 years ago
StevenDixon
Lol, evolution is a process that happens, it's not conscious therefore makes no rules by which we should live nor does it have goals.
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