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idealistic8
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InVinoVeritas
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Honesty is the best policy

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InVinoVeritas
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/8/2012 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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idealistic8

Con

I'll be starting my debate with the argument being that honesty is not always the best policy. There is a time for honesty, and a time for you to lie.

Also, just some information: This is my first debate on this website, so I'm probably not that good.

Ground Rules:
Round 1 will be used for stating our position
Round 2 will be used for stating our first argument
Round 3 will be for our counter argument
Round 4 will be for our rebuttal
Round 5 will be used for our closing statement, and any last comment
InVinoVeritas

Pro

Tough position for Pro.

Oh, well. I accept.

My position is that honesty is always the best policy.

Debate Round No. 1
idealistic8

Con

First, I think we should agree that honesty is defined as the whole truth and nothing else.

We often use honesty as an excuse to hurt or harm someone. If we are always honest, it would be impossible to maintain and grow relationships with other people. We would use total and complete honesty as a license to be hateful, rude, and just plain cruel. (http://www.eyesonsales.com...)

Now, think of the craziness of complete honesty. What if everyone were to know your darkest secret? What if they knew how many times you picked your nose in the last hour or farted when you thought no one could here you? It would be completely heartbreaking to some people. They wouldn't be able to leave their house, because they were so ashamed.

I believe that we can define kindness as the quality of being generous and considerate.

Honesty is ethical, but it isn't the best policy. Kindness is. Without kindness, why would the truth even matter?
InVinoVeritas

Pro

"What if everyone were to know your darkest secret? What if they knew how many times you picked your nose in the last hour or farted when you thought no one could here you? It would be completely heartbreaking to some people. They wouldn't be able to leave their house, because they were so ashamed."

Let us take a step back and wonder, why is this the case? It is because in our culture, we have certain norms and it is deemed shameful to admit certain things, and this is quite a shame. People need to be able to reconcile with their own and with one another's "secrets." There is nothing inherently embarrassing picking your nose; it is just labeled as an unacceptable act, so people tend to not be honest about whether or not they did it.

By encouraging a policy of honesty, people would be less uncomfortable with the farts and burps of their fellow man and woman. These are completely human actions, as are even the most taboo actions that tend in occur in isolated areas in the Amazon. Rather than feeling embarrassed and covering our actions up with lies, we should accept that our actions are human, flawed or not, and that there is no reason to lie about them.

Honesty is, indeed, the best policy, because it allows humanity to accept its own traits as mundane rather than taboo. This leads to a culture of openness and happiness.

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Counter: "Kindness is. Without kindness, why would the truth even matter?"

Kindness is certainly not the best policy. Those who put others in pain and misery do not deserve to be approached with kindness. Kindness tends to be a strong policy when it is recipricated or has the potential to lead to reciprication. Otherwise, it is unjustified.
Debate Round No. 2
idealistic8

Con

idealistic8 forfeited this round.
InVinoVeritas

Pro

Ugh, love debating new members who never come back.

Vote for meeee!
Debate Round No. 3
idealistic8

Con

idealistic8 forfeited this round.
InVinoVeritas

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
idealistic8

Con

idealistic8 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by Maikuru 4 years ago
Maikuru
This is a great topic. I love putting cliches under the microscope. It's like Mythbusters but with debates.
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