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How/When will the world end? Judgement?

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Started: 8/16/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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This debate does not apply to the Pro/Con status. But they still are labels, since I made the debate I chose Con, Con is cooler. Con sounds the bad guy if you think about.
Just wanting to know between a smart christian mind and hopefully get answers. Internet Church Talk. You can start your arguments I don't care.
Debate Round No. 1


I was wondering should we also count Peter's Apocalypse as well as St John the Divines Revelation. Also we must look at Daniel in the Old Testament.

Lets start with Daniel. The King of Babylon Nebuchadnezzar had a dream. Daniel was told it by him and the dream was interpenetrated. A statue of a man stood with a golden head, a silver torso, iron legs, bronze feet with rock mix toes.
Gold head equals Babylon
Silver torso equals Medo - Persians
Iron legs equal Greeks
Bronze feet equal Romans
Rock/Bronze toes equal the 10 major states after the Roman Empire collapse.

Daniel also had a dream sometime later about 4 beasts.
Same thing but with the fourth beast a lion mix unimaginable beast with ten horns. Similar to the ten toes of Bronze/Rock.
The antichrist rose like a little horn within the ten. And committed blasphemies, changed God's law. The will rule for 1260 years. This sounds like the Vatican.
After 1260 years of Papal control until Mr.Bonaparte exiled the Pope and killed him. But the rebirth of the church and St. Malachy prophecy of the popes.


We should not include Peter's Apocalypse for the following reasons:

1) The style of writing has Hellenistic influences whereas the Old and New Testament are mostly Hebraic.

2) Peter's Apocalypse has obvious references to Greek mythology while the Old and New testaments stick to Jewish mode of thought.

I agree with the 1st part, but i don't agree that the Vatican has anything to do with it unless you can provide evidence.

Debate Round No. 2


If we accept the Holy Bible we accept books written by Peter to be official. If not Mark is fake and according to atheists they all copied Mark, of course they are blinded.
Peter has letters within the Bible and we can't believe them?
You have really old books after Jesus' death. Like about his childhood.
Peters Apocalypse

Why just Revelation that has Letters to the Seven Churches in Asia Minor.
Revelation is official an true and I would also expect the first Pope, a man chosen to be crucified upside down in honor of Christ. Predicted by Christ. He should know something. Peter, John and his brother James were his three most beloved.

The Church changed the Sabbath form Saturday to Sunday, Priests can forgive sins, only God can.
They started wars and conquered lands with violence. Jesus was Holy, men are sinners and when the church went into Romans hands they didn't do a good job. Peace and acceptance just no persecution.
Priests should marry and have kids, be fruitful and multiply.
All the Christian heads should have another assembly and discuss agenda. Catholics and Protestants Branches.
All should gather from Baptist, to Amish. Evangelicals and Presbyterians.
Conquer some key things.
Gay marriage.
Prayer and Fasting.
How to spread the Gospel further.
Possible uniting or greater alliance between sects.


The Bible has Peter's letters, but the style of writings don't match. No where does Peter describe "People with pure milky white skin, curly hair, and are generally beautiful" or the earth blooming with everlasting flowers and spices. It doesn't even match with the rest of Scripture, so it cannot be how the world will end. The world will end as the New and Old Testaments describe it.
Debate Round No. 3


The End could come at any time, just at the time no one knew about the End.
It will come like a thief in the night. We may know that is end is nigh, but do not fear of wars and death. For this truly is to come.
I hear it will be death of fire and i am confused about the order of wrath and judgement in revelation. Give your assessment of that.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by ben671176 3 years ago
The Bible states that we don't know Judgment day will happen, but we say it will be in the future?
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