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How do atheists rationally know truth from fiction?

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Started: 4/19/2016 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 7 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ViceRegent

Con

Atheists love to live under the delusion that they are the guardians of rationality. But how can they hold this title when they cannot even articulate a rational way to know truth from fiction. If they cannot do this, they are literally ignorant and the ignorant cannot guard anything. So, what atheist can give me a rational way atheists know truth from fiction?

Answering this question is the sole purpose for this debate. If you are unable or unwilling to answer this question, do not respond to this debate. Likewise, if you do not believe in reality, believe you make it up or deny it is objective or knowable, or if you do not know how to rationally know truth from fiction, do not respond to this debate. If you are terrified of cross-examination or madly in love with red herrings, do not respond to this debate. If you have responded before, do not respond to this debate. After all, if you had nothing rational to say then, you will having nothing rational to say now.

If all you have is "science", do not respond to this debate, for science relies on the your senses and reason, which begs the question of how you know your senses and reason are valid. Perhaps you can tell me, which is fine, but if the way you validate you senses and reason is with your senses and reason, you lose the debate because that is circular reasoning and circular reasoning is not rational.

if you respond in violation of these rules, you automatically lose the debate.
Roufles

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Obsessive-compulsive disorder is a mental illness. It"s made up of two parts: obsessions and compulsions. People may experience obsessions, compulsions, or both, and they cause a lot of distress.

Obsessions are unwanted and repetitive thoughts, urges, or images that don"t go away. They cause a lot of anxiety. For example, someone might worry about atheists threatening their religious beliefs. Obsessions can focus on anything. These obsessive thoughts can be uncomfortable. Obsessions aren"t thoughts that a person would normally focus on, and they are not about a person"s character. They are symptoms of an illness.

Compulsions are actions meant to reduce anxiety caused by obsessions. Compulsions may be behaviours like washing, cleaning, or re-posting the same debate 3 times a day. Other actions are not obvious to others. For example, some people may count things or repeat phrases in their mind. Some people describe it as feeling like they have to do something until it feels "right." It"s important to understand that compulsions are a way to cope with obsessions. Someone who experiences OCD may experience distress if they can"t complete the compulsion.

People who experience OCD usually know that obsessions and compulsions don"t make sense, but they still feel like they can"t control them. Obsessions and compulsions can also change over time.
Debate Round No. 1
ViceRegent

Con

Well, he dodged the Q and lost the debate.
Roufles

Pro

You're mentally ill.

If you want to believe in God, you're welcome to believe in God. Enjoy your faith. Go to church. Join a Bible study group. Have lunch with your Pastor. Help your community.

What you're doing here is unhealthy.
Debate Round No. 2
ViceRegent

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Roufles

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Debate Round No. 3
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by ViceRegent 7 months ago
ViceRegent
Did he really say one knows truth by using true statements? ROFL
Posted by ViceRegent 7 months ago
ViceRegent
All those words and the fool never answers the question. God is right, these fools are unreasoning animals.
Posted by JoaquinBarzi 7 months ago
JoaquinBarzi
I will try once more, de-constructing your question.

How do atheist rationally know truth from fiction?

truth: a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like
fiction: something feigned, invented, or imagined; a made-up story
rational: having or exercising reason, sound judgment, or good sense
reason: the capacity for consciously making sense of things, APPLYING LOGIC, establishing and verifying facts, and changing or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information.

So, you are asking how do atheist logically know truth from fiction.

Logic:he systematic study of the form of arguments. A valid argument is one where there is a specific relation of logical support between the assumptions of the argument and its conclusion.

For an argument to be true according to logic, which is what you are asking from us, It must have a valid reasoning and true premises. Thats it. You form a valid argument using true statements, and you can tell truth from fiction. easy peasy. How do we know true statement from a false one? Epistemology 101, you already know that dont you? I mean, it is not like you an idiot.
Posted by JoaquinBarzi 7 months ago
JoaquinBarzi
Tells us then, what answer would suffice? We have tried answering this question for over 60 posts, is there an answer?

Lets see, i will try guessing it:

42?
You are right, atheist dont know dick?
we cant know dick?
Posted by Brendan21 7 months ago
Brendan21
@ ViceRegent If I am a fool please accept my challenge or send me a challenge to prove it.
Posted by Brendan21 7 months ago
Brendan21
@ViceRegent You have time and time again stated that atheists on this website are "fools" and "idiots." That is equivalent to saying they are delusional.
Posted by Macdaddy4sure 7 months ago
Macdaddy4sure
ViceRegent, are you irrational?
Posted by ViceRegent 7 months ago
ViceRegent
Well, if some irrational fool on DDO says I am "joke", it must be true. Do I not say atheists are delusional and narcissists? I thank this fool for proving it true.
Posted by Brendan21 7 months ago
Brendan21
@ ViceRegent You claim atheist are terrified of the Q yet you refuse to debate me on the topic when I challenge you. You a joke of a debater and will continue to lose every single one of these debates as you are a fallacious debater arguing from a stance of ignorance.
Posted by ViceRegent 7 months ago
ViceRegent
So many murdered electrons and these fools are STILL running from my Q. They all fail Epistemology 101 and yet insist I follow them for truth. ROFL.
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