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ViceRegent
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lord_megatron
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How do atheists rationally know truth from fiction?

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ViceRegent
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/9/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ViceRegent

Con

Atheists love to live under the delusion that they are the guardians of rationality. But how can they hold this title when they cannot even articulate a rational way to know truth from fiction. If they cannot do this, they are literally ignorant and the ignorant cannot guard anything. So, what atheist can give me a rational way atheists know truth from fiction?

Answering this question is the sole purpose for this debate. If you are unable or unwilling to answer this question, do not respond to this debate. Likewise, if you do not believe in reality, believe you make it up or deny it is objective or knowable, or if you do not know how to rationally know truth from fiction, do not respond to this debate. If you are terrified of cross-examination or madly in love with red herrings, do not respond to this debate. If you have responded before, do not respond to this debate. After all, if you had nothing rational to say then, you will having nothing rational to say now.

If all you have is "science", do not respond to this debate, for science relies on the your senses and reason, which begs the question of how you know your senses and reason are valid. Perhaps you can tell me, which is fine, but if the way you validate you senses and reason is with your senses and reason, you lose the debate because that is circular reasoning and circular reasoning is not rational.

if you respond in violation of these rules, you automatically lose the debate.
lord_megatron

Pro

Atheists try to, although we fail sometimes. Not only atheists, but anyone can know truth from fiction. Optimus Prime is fiction, Megatron is truth (lol no)
Debate Round No. 1
ViceRegent

Con

And here we have another obtuse atheist. Dude, I did not ask you if you know truth from fiction. I asked you for HOW you know truth from fiction.
lord_megatron

Pro

lord_megatron forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
ViceRegent

Con

Another atheist fool bites the dust.
lord_megatron

Pro

Senses. There are valid as nature provided them. God wasn't provided by nature.
Debate Round No. 3
ViceRegent

Con

How do you know your senses are valid? It is a non-sequitur to say they are valid because nature provided them, even if true. Indeed, those who are delusional got their senses from nature. Say something rational.
lord_megatron

Pro

Whatever, you win. I took the rigged debate on purpose, oh yes I did...
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by missmedic 7 months ago
missmedic
What grounds do we have to believe that a god is necessary? Cosmological arguments for the theistic side argue that, since everything is caused, there must be a cause to the universe as well. But this is a Fallacy of Composition, which is to say, it transposes attributes of parts to a whole without evidence. Why should we posit that the universe as a whole must also be caused? It is also a fallacy of Special Pleading, since God himself is said to not need explanation. But if this is the case, why does the universe need explanation? We cannot grant it to God and not to the universe. Both explain the same facts. There are no models of the universe in which a gods presence is either required, productive, or useful.
This position is confirmed by the atheistic cosmological arguments, which show that it is illogical to believe in divine creation.
Posted by ViceRegent 7 months ago
ViceRegent
Prove no one knows who or what was the creator of the universe?
Posted by mickmack23 7 months ago
mickmack23
Can you tell me how you know God created man on earth and all of the universe, so who created all of the prehistoric animals before man ever existed when no human was around then, no one really knows who or what was the creator of heaven and earth.
Posted by missmedic 7 months ago
missmedic
Pro presented an question that even he could not answer, had no rebuttal, and only offer ad-hominem, over 70 times..................vote pro..............and STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS.........................
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Posted by missmedic 7 months ago
missmedic
What a dick
Posted by zookdook1 7 months ago
zookdook1
FFS Vice, 71 reposts of the original?

And you've lost every single time the opponent has not forfeited.
Posted by vi_spex 7 months ago
vi_spex
the atheist is unresonable, this is and will always be the case, only a fool would disbelieve the black unicorn lord
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Vote Placed by Reigon 7 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: FF