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ViceRegent
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Couchgolfer
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How do atheists rationally know truth from fiction?

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Started: 6/30/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 5 months ago Status: Debating Period
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ViceRegent

Con

Atheists love to live under the delusion that they are the guardians of rationality. But how can they hold this title when they cannot even articulate a rational way to know truth from fiction. If they cannot do this, they are literally ignorant and the ignorant cannot guard anything. So, what atheist can give me a rational way atheists know truth from fiction?

Answering this question is the sole purpose for this debate. If you are unable or unwilling to answer this question, do not respond to this debate. Likewise, if you do not believe in reality, believe you make it up or deny it is objective or knowable, or if you do not know how to rationally know truth from fiction, do not respond to this debate. If you are terrified of cross-examination or madly in love with red herrings, do not respond to this debate. If you have responded before, do not respond to this debate. After all, if you had nothing rational to say then, you will having nothing rational to say now.

If all you have is "science", do not respond to this debate, for science relies on the your senses and reason, which begs the question of how you know your senses and reason are valid. Perhaps you can tell me, which is fine, but if the way you validate you senses and reason is with your senses and reason, you lose the debate because that is circular reasoning and circular reasoning is not rational.

if you respond in violation of these rules, you automatically lose the debate
Couchgolfer

Pro

How can you believe in something that you can't see, touch, hear or smell? What type of "truth" do you live under when there's no proof of your god?
Do you even know how many times the "bible" has been edited to accommodate each religious belief?

If you researched your history, you would find that all religions based their beliefs from Paganism. Notice how all the major religions have similar stories and main players, each adding their own exaggerated flavoring to the soup? Do you know how many times a space god has impregnanted a virgin mortal here on earth to produce a man with god-like powers? It's a story that's been played out many times. Same with the martyr hanging on a cross.

Order of the organized religions: Paganism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Who knows how many others there would have been had it not been for cultures being overtaken and had their own faiths replaced, BY FORCE, with an organized form of religion.

The "faithful" never accept that their religious stories are made up, or that Moses suffered from schizophrenia since he had "abilty" to speak with talking burning bushes and roamed the desert for over 40 years. You believe that your invisible entity loves you and protects you. You pray and ask for forgivness. You ask your dogma to answer your prayers - and if you don't receive a response, that's your answer. You hide behind your god when scolded about your bigoted beliefs because you don't have the abilty to stand or argue on your own.

If you feel you need a "god" to keep you from stealing or killing anyone, or as your guiding moral compass, you have some mental health issues that need to be dealt with on a professional level.
Debate Round No. 1
ViceRegent

Con

And this fool, having failed to even attempt to answer the Q, loses the debate. I wish you fools would stop wasting my time with your ignorance and bad logic.
Couchgolfer

Pro

New to the boards so I'm learning my way around here.....

Vice - Where's your data to support your hypothesis about atheists? To call someone a fool when apparently you know nothing about your religion goes to show who the fool really is.

Come back when you're able to process and articulate a coherent argument.
Debate Round No. 2
ViceRegent

Con

ViceRegent forfeited this round.
Couchgolfer

Pro

Vice forfeited. Enough said.
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by TheWorldIsComplicated 5 months ago
TheWorldIsComplicated
Vice, if you can't prove it then your argument fails.
Posted by ViceRegent 5 months ago
ViceRegent
Atheists love the non-sequitur. I wish they would take a class in logic. Perhaps then they would stop looking so foolish.
Posted by missmedic 5 months ago
missmedic
The Worldis
VR has done this debate almost one hundred times, he has asked one question but has never made a point. He seems deluded to do the exact same question so many times just to insult people. He answers his own question in the asking, by expecting a rational answer. It would be like me asking him if he knows how stupid he is and expecting an intelligent answer.
Posted by TheWorldIsComplicated 5 months ago
TheWorldIsComplicated
Just proves my point that Vice goes straight to insulting, which means that he can't prove his point.
Posted by vi_spex 5 months ago
vi_spex
moron=more on=belief
Posted by vi_spex 5 months ago
vi_spex
know is true
Posted by ViceRegent 5 months ago
ViceRegent
Listen, moron, I am not interested in your questions. Until you can figure out a way to know truth from fiction rationally, more information will not help you. Get with the program.
Posted by TheWorldIsComplicated 5 months ago
TheWorldIsComplicated
Vice, here is a question, how can you prove that you are right?
Posted by ViceRegent 5 months ago
ViceRegent
There is none so blind as those who will not see. ROFL.
Posted by Grandzam 5 months ago
Grandzam
The kek.
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