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Human Cloning

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Started: 4/23/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Canuckleball

Pro

I stumbled across the poll about human cloning, and thought it would be an interesting debate. I see nothing inherently wrong with human cloning, and therefore will be arguing for. It has numerous potential medical benefits, and while it may not turn out to be useful it should certainly be researched more. BOP will have to be shared, as we are venturing into murky moral territory. R1 will serve as an acceptance, R2 for arguments, R3 for rebuttals. Cheers!
dxdre

Con

I will accept your challenge, pro, and yes this is quite an interesting topic!
Good luck!
Debate Round No. 1
Canuckleball

Pro

Now, before we begin, we should be clear that the term "human cloning" does not mean making an exact copy of a living human as is popular in science fiction. Cloning refers to the process of making exact replicas of living cells, tissue, organs, and/or entire organisms. Cloning technology has become quite sophisticated, having produced living, healthy mammals such as sheep. The Pyrenean Ibex became the first extinct species to be successfully cloned, become the first de-extinction in history. The clone only survived for minutes before death due to a lung defect, however many other cloning projects are underway. GMO foods have been declared safe for consumption by the FDA, and are currently in grocery stores across America. Cloning has also proven very useful for ensuring the survival of endangered species.

However, while cloning non-human animals doesn't seem to bother most people, human cloning is somewhat troubling. A group of Chinese scientists recently announced that they had attempted to clone human embryos, causing a major outcry in the scientific community. The Chinese team had not been attempting to create living humans, and were instead using defective embryos and attempting to create a specifically altered gene in every cell of the embryo. The experiment was a failure; all of the embryos either died or did not successfully reproduce the gene without other issues occurring. There have been many other attempts at cloning human cells, some successful and others not. Nothing beyond the cellular phase has yet been attempted, but the possibility of cloning replacement organs, or eliminating genetic diseases through cloned IVF, are tantalizing to say the least. Lets look at the best reasons we should allow research into human cloning to continue.

- Elimination of genetic diseases. Cloned healthy human cells or genetically modified embryos could help heal and eventually end many crippling genetic diseases, including Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases.
- Organ/tissue transplants. Many people are on a waiting list for an organ, and thousands will die waiting for a match. However, if we could clone a healthy organ from the person's own cells, the mortality rate from organ failure and many cancers would be greatly reduced. The benefits do not have to be life-saving. Cloned ligaments, tendons, bones, skin, and muscles could help people with all ranges of injury. A new spinal cord would end paralysis, a new brain could save people with traumatic head injuries, new eyes for the blind, the possibilities are endless.
- Immortality. The reason people age is imperfections in the reproduction of cells. This is an area that cloning research would be valuable. The chance to slow or even stop the ageing process is both terrifying and exciting.
- Infertility. With birth rates dropping in many developed countries and current infertility treatments still relatively ineffective, cloning would allow childless couples to have children with a blend of their own DNA, just like a real child.
- Cosmetic surgery. Think what you will of people who desire plastic surgery, there is a large market for the service. Cloning real human tissues (ie larger breasts) would be much safer than current silicone methods.

We are nowhere close to many of the above benefits of cloning. Cloning is a difficult process, and we are still learning exactly how to manipulate genes. However, this is all the more reason to allow research to take place. Many countries have bans on human cloning research, deeming it morally unacceptable. However, with proper legal regulations (no living sentient humans can be created, no living person's DNA can be used without their express permission, no hybrid creatures can be created, etc.) there is no moral/ethical reason to ban research into human cloning.

http://www.humancloning.org...
http://www.nytimes.com...
http://healthresearchfunding.org...
http://www.nationalgeographic.com...
dxdre

Con

Well this really changes everything as I thought we were arguing about full Human cloning.
Debate Round No. 2
Canuckleball

Pro

Canuckleball forfeited this round.
dxdre

Con

dxdre forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by AKhattak 1 year ago
AKhattak
There is already a problem or overpopulation think about the impact on life if population began increasing at twice the rate but deaths became 0. in a few more decades there would no longer be any habitable areas left on earth and everyone would die of starvation or oxygen shortage.
Posted by Tommy.leadbetter 1 year ago
Tommy.leadbetter
Can anybody give an argument against the growing of human body parts?
Posted by Kozu 1 year ago
Kozu
Plenty of ethical arguments against it.
Posted by Himans45 1 year ago
Himans45
First of all, souls aren't real. Second of all, Cloning a whole person will only create another person, just like giving birth. Clones wouldn't have the same personalities and such, they would only be the same physically. Personalities are developed by living life, and your environment around you.
Posted by Asburnu 1 year ago
Asburnu
What if scenario: Clone a person, raise them in a similar environment, same teaching, mimic everything in upbringing, get same PERSON. What does that say about souls?
Posted by Canuckleball 1 year ago
Canuckleball
I don't know, but it has a lot of opponents. Many people are even opposed to stem cell research.
Posted by Tommy.leadbetter 1 year ago
Tommy.leadbetter
oh well that's an easy one for me. Yes. Why would anyone say no?
Posted by Canuckleball 1 year ago
Canuckleball
Human cloning doesn't automatically refer to creating a complete organism. Human cloning includes cloning cells, organs, tissues, and yes potentially organisms. But the debate isn't about whether a fully living human person should be cloned, but about whether any human cloning should be allowed.
Posted by Tommy.leadbetter 1 year ago
Tommy.leadbetter
Mate, just think about the reality of what your saying.

Who would want to be somebody else's clone?

Its a horror story

And please don't compare it to normal births.

But, if the clone could be brainless and used for spare body parts, then brilliant!
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