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vanibu
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Yraelz
Con (against)
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24 Points

I agree that art and music should be essential to learn in school.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/13/2008 Category: Arts
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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vanibu

Pro

I agree that art and music should be essential to learn in schools, public or private. It is a way to bring culture and education into children minds.
I think that there should be more government invovlement such as prividing aid, specially, for public schools to buy instruments and other tools in order for this to happen. There should be more music competition between schools so the childern would also have to particpiparte in a productive and interactive way.
Yraelz

Con

Well I will start out by attacking this case on two levels. I'm not sure exactly how you intended this so we will just have to see.

Level 1

You state that, "I agree that art and music should be essential to learn in schools, public or private. It is a way to bring culture and education into children minds." Yet you offer me no one that you agree with.

Were you simply intending to say that "Art and music should be essential to learn in schools"?

Level 2 (Assuming you are trying to argue that they should be.)

You say that it should be in schools because it brings culture and education into children minds. However what the community needs to keep in mind is the fact that many things do this all to different degrees.

Music: Yes it brings some education. It also brings a lot of culture. Music goes back a very long way.

Art: Maybe not as much education? Has quite a bit of culture.

Foreign Languages: Lots of education, and a very great deal of foreign culture.

Debate: Lots of education, a lot of culture (you need to know about every society to potentially debate well)

Soccer: Not so much education, lots of culture though if you would like to get into it.

Religion: Lots of education no matter what religion you choose, lots of culture obviously.

World cultures: Same.

Dance: Some education, lots of culture.

Cheer leading: Nothing.

Anyways my point is this. There are a great deal of activities that offer education and culture but clearly there is not enough time to do every single one of them in school. You say that it is essential yet I disagree and advocate instead for the freedom of choice. For some people art and music just isn't their thing, they need the opportunity to branch out. For some, having these classes mandated would simply be an aggravation every day. I would say instead that joining extracurricular activities should be strongly encouraged because of educational, cultural, and physical value.

Thank you.
Debate Round No. 1
vanibu

Pro

vanibu forfeited this round.
Yraelz

Con

My opponent does not bother responding to me thus all my arguments still stand in round. Should my opponent choose not to answer again I will offer a summary in my final round.
Debate Round No. 2
vanibu

Pro

Well, first off I would have to disagree due, not only, to the fact that my opponant is not going directly to the point, but also because the issue in this deabte is about MUSIC AND ART.
Music should be provided in all institutes, public and private. It is essential for the growth of a proper, knowledgable, and creative minds. Art inspires creativity and helps the students to create there own person.
Yraelz

Con

Alright I will offer my conclusion as briefly as possible.

Level 1: My opponent completely drops my argument thereby proving that he does not agree with anyone or anything.

Level 2: My opponent once again drops my argument in order to reiterate his points. He simply states that art and music are somehow essential with no evidence to back this claim up at all. My points from earlier thereby all still stand. Being:

1. Not everyone is good at art and music.
2. Other activities offer the same benefits as art and music.
3. Being in art and music potentially detracts from other activities an individual would like to do.
4. Individuals should have freedom of choice, a right to choose what activity best suits there needs and capabilities. Extracurricular activities should pushed by school administration as desirable.

With all these points still standing I see nothing but a Con vote. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by rwebberc 9 years ago
rwebberc
Honestly, who voted pro here?
Posted by amberrenee 9 years ago
amberrenee
I don't agree...Not all kids (including me) are skilled with are and singing or playing an instrument. It would most likely frustrate those children and there is already enough pressure on school students as it is. However, I do agree that it should be offered at every school, just not mandatory.
Posted by Randomknowledge 9 years ago
Randomknowledge
Nice response, Logical. Very funny. As sarcasm is almost impossible to detect online, i have to say that that was not sarcastic.
Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
Logical-Master
So um, does the Con have to disprove that you agree to such a proposition?
Posted by Randomknowledge 9 years ago
Randomknowledge
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. 100% agreed.
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