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chaoscreatorj.h
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Koopin
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I think little brothers are easier on parents than big brothers in general

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Koopin
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/3/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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chaoscreatorj.h

Pro

I think little brothers are easier on parents than older brothers in general.
Koopin

Con

I thank my opponent for sending me this debate.

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Definitions

Brother: A male offspring having both parents in common with another offspring.
Parents: A father or a mother.
To Think: To have a certain thing as the subject of one's thoughts.

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Argument:

The resolution is "I (Pro) think little brothers are easier on parents than older brothers in general." While this may be true, my opponent must prove the resolution. Although he says that he thinks little brothers are easier on parents than older brothers in general, he may be lying about thinking that. I could also say I think the sky is purple, but I can prove to you that I really think that. You have the burden of proof, how do we know you really "think" that?

I look forward to my opponent's next argument.

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Debate Round No. 1
chaoscreatorj.h

Pro

Ok Koopin little brothers are easier on parents for the most part. Big brothers have to learn everything from who? His parents of course. Although little brothers don't. For example little brothers have not only their parents to learn from, but also their older brother. Now Koopin do you have any evidence at all that what I'm saying is not true. If you do then I will be very surprised. I would also like to ask you if Asia exists? If you have any proof I would like to hear it. If you say because many people have been there well couldn't they be lying? You have no proof. For all you know Asia doesn't even exist.
Koopin

Con

I thank my opponent for posting his next argument.

You still have not proven that this is what you think.

But, I will address the issue at hand.

You claim that since older brothers have to learn from their parents, then this means that they are harder on their parents. This is wrong in many ways, for one, what about older sisters? Many families have a girl born first, my family for example. I have two older sisters, that I learned from.
The second thing wrong with your statement is the assumption that little brothers don't have to learn from their parents. If my little brother asked me what his social security number was, I would not know. He would have to learn it from my mother. Also, what about twins? Sometime two brothers are born a few minutes apart. The younger brother will be just as much of a burden as his older brother.

Another thing is, usually older brothers are smarter and stronger than their younger brothers. They are more capable of taking care of themselves and others around them, while the younger brother must ask the parent for help. The Older brother can mow the lawn and wash the car for the parent, while the younger cannot.

Though, you still have the Burden of Proof. You must prove that you actually think that little brothers are easier on parents than older brothers. Even you admit that Asia might not exist. It is called 'Solipsism.' Nothing but your own mind can be proved or disproved.

I look forward to your response, young Jerry.

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Debate Round No. 2
chaoscreatorj.h

Pro

Well to address what you said about older sisters if you have two older sisters then good for you the little brother can learn from the older brother and the older sisters.
And to address what you said about little brothers having to learn from their parents, your right they do have to learn from their parents, but some things older brothers or sisters teach little brothers help the parents out. Now the parent or parents don't have to teach the little brother the thing that the older sibling taught them. For example my brother (tjordan) taught me how to throw and catch a baseball. Since he taught me this my Dad didn't have to teach me how to throw and catch a baseball, because my brother taught me how to already. Although my Dad has taught me more about baseball than my brother he didn't have to teach me to throw and catch which makes me the little brother easier on my Dad.
And about what you said about older brothers being able to take care of themselves better, of course they can. But who taught them to take care of themselves? His parent or his older sibling of course. And Kevin you can't say that you didn't teach your little brother Donovan something about how to take care of himself. It may have been from him watching you tie your shoe. But this means he doesn't have to be walking along the streets and have to ask some stranger to tie his shoe for him. This means you have taught him something about how to take care of himself. Which means this is one less thing that your parents have to teach Donovan.
To address what you said about having to prove that little brothers are less of a pain then older brothers. There is no way you can really prove anything, but you can come to a conclusion that something must be true. For example a atheist has no way of proving without a shadow of doubt that there is no God, but he thinks there is no way it can't be true. And neither can a Creationist prove that there is a God, but the same goes for him he might believe that there is no way it can be true that there is no God. But clearly one must be true there has to be either no God, or there has to be a God.

I also look forward to your responce old Kevin.
Koopin

Con

I would like to thank my opponent for posting his final argument.

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Argument:

You say that if a younger brother has older sisters, then he can just learn from them too. While this is true, the point is that the older brother can also learn from them to the same extent. You even admit that a little brother has to learn things from his parents, and then you go on to say that he can also learn from his older brother. I believe you are confused about the idea of "Burden." Just because a child does not have to learn a few things from the parents does not mean it is easier. There are other things to consider other than knowledge, such as:

1. The ability to take care of oneself.

If the age difference is wide, an older brother can take care of himself much better than the younger. He can fix his food, get dressed, do school, and go to bed all by himself. The younger brother must rely on his parents for most of these things. Although the older brother could help, a parent will still realize that it is not their older son's job to always take care of the little one. Also, a parent does not have to worry about a babysitter for the older brother, but with a younger child, they do.

2. The ability to think for oneself.

Many people are always trying to get into children's heads. They try to fill it up with all the things they believe. The reason for this is that they know children are more susceptible than adults. With older brothers, parent do not have to worry about what they are watching on T.V or who they are talking to. With younger brothers, parent must always be on the lookout for people trying fill their little head's with nonsense. Studies show that what a child learns between the ages of 0-12 is what he or she usually believes for the rest of his or her life.

3. Dangers.
There are many dangers for a child, especially a young one. While Parents sometimes have to watch the older brother, they have to be extremely watchful for the younger ones. A younger child is less aware of the dangers of life, so he does not pay attention to what he is doing. Thousands of young children die a year just by slipping into a pool.

You use an example you use of teaching a child how to throw and catch a baseball. Just because a child does not have to learn something from their parent, does not mean that it is easier on the parent. Parents like to teach their children things, whether it be how to shoot a basketball, or how to fish. If a child never wanted to learn from their parents, it would actually be hard on the parent. A parent wants to teach their kids how to take care of themselves, it gives them pleasure.

You still have not proven (or shown significant evidence) that little brothers are less of a pain then older brothers. You have also failed t address my points about twins and age differences. I extend all arguments on those matters.

I thank my opponent for this entertaining debate; I would also like to thank the audience for reading. Vote Con.

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
KFC young one... KFC
Posted by Mr.Wright 7 years ago
Mr.Wright
From the looks of this debate. Koopin is going to win very easily. Too bad I can't vote...
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
Koopin still has not posted.
Posted by Kinesis 7 years ago
Kinesis
I actually didn't know you could do that, interesting.
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
Looks more professional, keeping it clean.
Posted by J.Kenyon 7 years ago
J.Kenyon
Why'd you bother to TinyURL your sources? It looks like you had plenty of characters left...
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
Prepare for a long response young one.
Posted by gerrandesquire 7 years ago
gerrandesquire
i am a 'sister', and i've got a elder 'sister', and none of us is easier on our parents:-)
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
People comment once the debate is through.
Posted by chaoscreatorj.h 7 years ago
chaoscreatorj.h
Yes it is. You will die Kevin. Will someone comment about what they think.
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