I will lose this debate
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after 9 votes the winner is...
THEBOMB
| Started: | 6/5/2012 | Category: | Entertainment |
| Updated: | 11 months ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 888 times | Debate No: | 24096 |
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Votes (9)
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 Pro The Descartes argument: I think, therefore I am. Therefore I exist. The ontological argument for the existence of this debate: You can imagine this debate, therefore this debate exists. I will not prove either of these, because that would mean winning the debate, which I am not going to do. Con You may have proven to yourself that you exist. But, how do I know you think? I do not. Furthermore, you could just be a butterfly dreaming of being human. Solipsism holds there is only one person in existence, everyone else is just a product of their mind. So until you can prove you are not just a product of my mind, this debate is fallacious because you can neither win nor lose this debate, only I can win or lose this debate and as such, I must win because voting for "my opponent" would be voting for a non-existent entity. Ontological argument: Now let's spin things around, what if my opponent believes in solipsism? Then there is no "you" (me) present in this debate. Therefore, my opponent is simply imagining me, imagine this debate. And they are the only one imagining this debate. The ontological argument, thus, fails. If that is so, this debate does not exist, and neither I nor my opponent can win or lose this debate. Therefore, the voter's have one of two choices (at the present time) voting Con, off of the Descartes argument, or voting Tie, off of the Ontological argument. |
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Pro Con There is no "I" to lose this debate. "I" does not exist. Therefore, "I" [my opponent] cannot lose because they do not exist. Therefore, I [THEBOMB] must win. Ontological argument: Well seeing how my opponent never contested the Descartes arguments... |
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9 votes have been placed for this debate. Showing 1 through 9 records.
Vote Placed by Ron-Paul 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - |  | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | | - | - | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | - | | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 3 | 0 |
Reasons for voting decision: Descartes!
Vote Placed by nvreynolds 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | - | | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | - | | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 0 |
Reasons for voting decision: ...
Vote Placed by K.GKevinGeary 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | - | | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | - | | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 0 |
Reasons for voting decision: counter 1historygenius's vote bomb. Any way it seems tough to vote this one. Well done.
Vote Placed by nyyfan 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | | - | - | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | - | | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 3 | 0 |
Reasons for voting decision: I have to vote Pro because he is currently losing, therefore proving he would lose... I'm confused.
Vote Placed by 1Historygenius 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | - | | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | - | | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 0 |
Reasons for voting decision: Vote bomb!
Vote Placed by Xerge 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | | - | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | | - | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | | - | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | | - | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 7 |
Reasons for voting decision: counter nvreynolds
Vote Placed by TheOrator 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | | - | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | - | | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 3 |
Reasons for voting decision: Haha, using philosophy trolling to counter resolution trolling. Very well done sir, vote goes to you.
Vote Placed by 16kadams 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | - | | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | - | | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | - | | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 0 |
Reasons for voting decision: Can't vote on a paradox
Vote Placed by Zaradi 11 months ago
| anachronist | THEBOMB | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | | - | - | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | | - | - | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | | - | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | - | | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 2 | 3 |
Reasons for voting decision: RFD in comments
We established that already haha
and Pro doesn't exist dairygirl :P
but then, if he won the debate, then he'd have really lost the debate. and all the voters who voted against him were right.
i think im going cross eyed...