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LunaEques
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mongeese
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I will not break a rule

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Started: 1/23/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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LunaEques

Pro

This is a copy of one of Nails' debates.

0. By accepting this debate, my opponent agrees to all the rules already posted.

1. Rules created hold power over all rules posted later, and no later rule can contradict an earlier rule.

2. A forfeit results in a loss.

3. A violation of a rule that is not null and void will result in the rule-breaker losing this debate.

4. With the exception of my first round, a player may only do something besides make rules to discuss whether one has broken a rule, or whether a rule is null.

5. Not counting these foundation rules, each player can only create 3 rules per turn.

6. Each player must produce 3 rules per round.

7. Rules cannot result in an auto-win. Breaking a rule cannot result in the victory of the rule-breaker. Each player should have an opportunity to not break each rule.

8. A voter must default all categories to the victor of the debate. The loser is the first person to break a rule.

9. All rules are assumed to only apply to future actions.

10. PRO and CON are titles used to describe either debater--CON is not arguing againstg the topic. PRO and CON are both held responsible to not break any rules.

Please don't exploit loopholes in the foundation rules.

END OF FOUNDATION RULES

11. PRO must be allowed to point out rules that her opponent has broken, explanations of such rule breaks, and rebuttals to any rules her opponent claims she has broken.

12. CON's rules must not be excessively difficult to follow.

13. CON must write the words for any numbers he/she wishes to use. (e.g instead of 1, one; instead of 7, seven)
mongeese

Con

fourteen. PRO must maintain perfect grammar.

fifteen. In any case where a word's definition has subjectivity, that word's subjectivity is to be determined solely by CON.

sixteen. All things written in Rounds two-four must be in the Spanish language.
Debate Round No. 1
LunaEques

Pro

PRO maintains that CON has broken one of the rules of PRO.
Rule twelve states the following: "CON's rules must not be excessively difficult to follow."
CON's rule sixteen clearly violates this rule. PRO does not know Spanish. Writing with perfect grammar in the Spanish language is excessively difficult for PRO.

Here is the rules section of PRO's argument.

17. CON must also maintain perfect English grammar.
18. CON may determine if a word is subjective, but PRO has the final say on the definition and application of the definition in context of the aforementioned word.
19. In the next round, CON must present a typed picture of a one dollar bill.
mongeese

Con

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Mi opositora dice que mi regla dieciseis es excesivamente dif�cil. Pero, por la regla quince, yo puedo determinar el Mi opositora dice que mi regla dieciseis es excesivamente dif�cil. Pero, por la regla quince, yo puedo determinar el dificultad de las reglas. Yo puedo mecanografiar en espa�ol; por eso, no es una regla dif�cil. Tambi�n, hay Babel Fish[uno]. Ella pudo traducir su discusi�n con Babel Fish. Tambi�n, el definici�n de "excesivamente" es:
excederse cu�l es generalmente, apropiado, necesario, o normal[dos]. Mi regla es normal. Por ejemplo, en este discusi�n[tres], wjmelements requer� a su opositor mecanografiar en alem�n. Finalmente, mi opositora no puede probar que no sabe espa�ol.

Mi opositora Mi opositora dice que mi regla dieciseis es excesivamente dif�cil. Pero, por la regla quince, yo puedo determinar el Mi opositora dice que mi regla dieciseis es excesivamente dif�cil. Pero, por la regla quince, yo puedo determinar el dificultad de las reglas. Yo puedo mecanografiar en espa�ol; por eso, no es una regla dif�cil. Tambi�n, hay Babel Fish[uno]. Ella pudo traducir su discusi�n con Babel Fish. Tambi�n, el definici�n de "excesivamente" es:
excederse cu�l es generalmente, apropiado, necesario, o normal[dos]. Mi regla es normal. Por ejemplo, en este discusi�n[tres], wjmelements requer� a su opositor mecanografiar en alem�n. Finalmente, mi opositora no puede probar que no sabe espa�ol.

Mi opositora rompi� la regla dieciseis, porque no mecanografi� su discusi�n en espa�ol. Todo que mi opositora escribi� es nulo y sin efecto.

La regla diecisiete rompe mi regla dieciseis. No puedo usar la gram�tica de ingl�s, porque necesito mecanografiar mis reglas en espa�ol, por la regla dieciseis.

Mi opositora rompi� mi regla. Yo gano.

veinte. Mi opositora tiene que agregar su dicsuci�n proxima despu�s de las nueve en la ma�ana, ma�ana.

veintiuno. Mi opositora tiene que agregar una poema en la forma de haiku.

veintidos. Todos las reglas que mi opositora mecanografia tienen que restringir su capacidad de mecanografiar reglas.

Mi traducci�n es en la secci�n de comentarios.

uno. http://babelfish.yahoo.com...
dos. http://www.merriam-webster.com...
tres. http://www.debate.org...
Debate Round No. 2
LunaEques

Pro

I am unable to continue debating on Debate.org, so I must concede this debate. I thank mongeese for a very fun round!
mongeese

Con

It is a shame that my opponent cannot continue this deabte. I wish her luck in whatever else she's doing.

My opponent has forfeited. I win.
Debate Round No. 3
LunaEques

Pro

LunaEques forfeited this round.
mongeese

Con

Checkmate.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Logical-Master 6 years ago
Logical-Master
Heheheh. Well played. Check mate
Posted by Ore_Ele 6 years ago
Ore_Ele
luna concedes, that wraps it.
Posted by Ore_Ele 6 years ago
Ore_Ele
While, CON determines the subjectivity of any word, PRO made the rule that PRO gets to state the correct definition, however, this was after CON made the spanish rule, which was not in violation of any rule at that time. The PRO made the rule that PRO gets to decide the final definition, but I believe that this is not able to back track (since new rules cannot violate previous rules). So it appears to me that CON has nailed this one.
Posted by mongeese 6 years ago
mongeese
Translation:

My opponent says that my rule sixteen is excessively difficult. But, by rule fifteen, I can determine the difficulty of the rules. I can type in Spanish; for that reason, it is not a difficult rule. Also, there is Babel Fish [one]. She could translate her argument with Babel Fish. Also, the definition of "excessively" is: to exceed which is general, appropriate, necessary, or normal [two]. My rule is normal. For example, in this debate[three], wjmelements required his opponent to type in German. Finally, my opponent cannot prove that she does not know Spanish.

My opponent broke rule sixteen, because she did not type her discussion in Spanish. Everything that my opponent wrote is null and void. Rule seventeen breaks my rule sixteen. I cannot use English grammar, because I need to type my rules in Spanish, by rule sixteen. My opponent broke my rule. I win.

twenty. My opponent must add her next argument after the nine in the morning, tomorrow.

twenty-one. My opponent must add a poem in the form of haiku.

twenty-two. All the rules that my opponent types must restrict her ability to type rules.

My translation is in the comments.
Posted by Cody_Franklin 6 years ago
Cody_Franklin
Rule 14 argues for perfect grammar, and that applies to rule 16; and, I can tell you from experience that online translators often screw up grammatically.
Posted by studentathletechristian8 6 years ago
studentathletechristian8
Pro has lost.

Mongeese never said that Pro had to write with perfect grammar of fluency in Spanish. Mongeese merely made a rule for Pro to write rules in the Spanish language.

There is something called Google Translator.
Posted by Xer 6 years ago
Xer
She never said Nails started it, or invented it.

"This is a copy of one of Nails' debates."
Posted by mongeese 6 years ago
mongeese
The idea didn't start with Nails. It started with Yraelz. Catch up on your DDO history.

http://ddofans.com...
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