The Instigator
emospongebob527
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The Contender
angrymen
Con (against)
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I will not contradict myself.

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angrymen
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/7/2012 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (4)
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emospongebob527

Pro

This debate is whether or not I will contradict myself.

Term and Conditions-

Rounds 1 & 2- Con asks Pro ten yes or no questions.
Round 3- Con will state Pro's contradictions (if any).
Round 4- Pro will defend alleged contradictions (if any) or admit defeat and Con will attempt to refute Pro's round four defenses.

Pro reserves the right to define words according to the online version of the Merriam-Webster dictionary unless Con defines the word in his question.

No semantics
No trolling
No profanity
No vulgarity
Multiple negation is not allowed
The question: "Yes or No?" is not allowed as any of the R1 or R2 questions.

If either party violates the terms and conditions, the offending party will lose the debate and both parties will be asked to abort the debate.
angrymen

Con

I accept and assume my opponent will answer all questions truthfully and correctly. I also assume pro will answer each question "yes" or "no". If not I ask for a con win.

contradiction - (logic) a statement that is necessarily false. (logic) a statement that contradicts itself.

lets get to it.

1. Does .9 repeating equal one?

2. Are the answers to my questions correct?

3. Will your answer to this question be no?

4. Does -5 multiplied by 6 multiplied by 7 multiplied by 7 multiplied by 8 multiplied by 4 multiplied by 4 multiplied by 4 multiplied by multiplied by 100000000000000000 multiplied by 57 multiplied by 376292746756483823 multiplied by 73464734893377 multiplied by -6758393847565473839 multiplied by 5783874646373930293857 multiplied by 4854734636382982920 multiplied by 857463783929374756488484 multiplied by 7484 multiplied by 1 multiplied by 47574843848 multiplied by 47565848494938 multiplied by 3^2 multiplied by 3^1 multiplied by 89467473483939494^1 multiplied by 657489393774575848393494885 multiplied by 7658348467584485757i multiplied by 75758437857 multiplied by 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111i multiplied by -7475 multiplied by -74643637 multiplied by -45647 multiplied by -1 multiplied by 4748475675647483 plus -100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 divided by -49805835893 divided by -239898232938938111111111111111111 divided by -1 equal a positive number?

5. If the answer to this question is no, is no the answer to this question?

6. Does (x+y)^13 equal x^13+13(X^12)(Y^1)+78(X^11)(Y^2)+186(X^10)(Y^3)+715(X^9)(Y^4)+1278(X^8)(Y^5)+1716(X^7)(Y^6)+1716(X^6)(Y^7)+1278(X^5)(Y^8)+715(X^4)(Y^9)+186(X^3)(Y^10)78(X^2)(Y^11)13(X^1)(Y^12)+y^13?

7. If I win this debate will I be undefeated in debates?

8. Have you lied on Debate.org?

9. Are paradox's contradictions?

10. Can you add a mathematical symbol between 5 and 9 to get a number greater than 5 but less than 9?
Debate Round No. 1
emospongebob527

Pro

Thank you for accepting my challenge, and I would like to clarify that yes, I will be answering either "yes" or "no" to each question......... Unless I find your question to be a fallacy, I will then counter it............. And I would also like to clarify something else: The definition of contradiction; contradiction- a proposition, statement, or phrase that asserts or implies both the truth and falsity of something.
And I would also like to clear up what my resolution means......... For instance, if you ask me "Are you homosexual?"
and I answer "No" then you ask me "Are you homosexual?" And I answer yes......... Then my answers have contradicted themselves..........

1. Does .9 repeating equal one?
No.

2. Are the answers to my questions correct?
Yes.

3. Will your answer to this question be no?
My opponent has not presented a logical question. He has presented a "loaded question". Aside from being a logical fallacy, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.

4. Does -5 multiplied by 6 multiplied by 7 multiplied by 7 multiplied by 8 multiplied by 4 multiplied by 4 multiplied by 4 multiplied by multiplied by 100000000000000000 multiplied by 57 multiplied by 376292746756483823 multiplied by 73464734893377 multiplied by -6758393847565473839 multiplied by 5783874646373930293857 multiplied by 4854734636382982920 multiplied by 857463783929374756488484 multiplied by 7484 multiplied by 1 multiplied by 47574843848 multiplied by 47565848494938 multiplied by 3^2 multiplied by 3^1 multiplied by 89467473483939494^1 multiplied by 657489393774575848393494885 multiplied by 7658348467584485757i multiplied by 75758437857 multiplied by 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 multiplied by -7475 multiplied by -74643637 multiplied by -45647 multiplied by -1 multiplied by 4748475675647483 plus -100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 divided by -49805835893 divided by -239898232938938111111111111111111 divided by -1 equal a positive number?
No.

5. If the answer to this question is no, is no the answer to this question?
Again, My opponent has not presented a logical question. He has presented a "loaded question". Aside from being a logical fallacy, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.

6. Does (x+y)^13 equal x^13+13(X^12)(Y^1)+78(X^11)(Y^2)+186(X^10)(Y^3)+715(X^9)(Y^4)+1278(X^8)(Y^5)+1716(X^7)(Y^6)+1716(X^6)(Y^7)+1278(X^5)(Y^8)+715(X^4)(Y^9)+186(X^3)(Y^10)78(X^2)(Y^11)13(X^1)(Y^12)+y^13?
No.

7. If I win this debate will I be undefeated in debates?
No.

8. Have you lied on Debate.org?
No.

9. Are paradox's contradictions?
Yes.

10. Can you add a mathematical symbol between 5 and 9 to get a number greater than 5 but less than 9?
No.
angrymen

Con

Ok.
Sorry I guess I didn't see in the rules where it says no loaded questions.....

On to the questions.

11. Is a decimal point a mathematical symbol?

12. Have you made a contradiction in this debate?

13. Are you homosexual?

14. Have you ever eaten a sausage?

15. Will the St. Louis Cardinals lose the series to the Washington Nationals in the NLDS?

16. Will The New York Yankees win their series against the Baltimore Oriels in the ALDS?

17. Does the house that I live in have 4 bedrooms?

18. Are you a Criminal?

19. Are you smarter than a fifth grader?

20. If you divide 30 by half and add ten do you get 25?

Hope you enjoy.
Debate Round No. 2
emospongebob527

Pro

11. Is a decimal point a mathematical symbol?
Yes.
12. Have you made a contradiction in this debate?
No.
13. Are you homosexual?
No.
14. Have you ever eaten a sausage?
Yes.
15. Will the St. Louis Cardinals lose the series to the Washington Nationals in the NLDS?
No.
16. Will The New York Yankees win their series against the Baltimore Oriels in the ALDS?
No.
17. Does the house that I live in have 4 bedrooms?
No.
18. Are you a Criminal?
No.
19. Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
Yes.
20. If you divide 30 by half and add ten do you get 25?
No. 30 divided by half is 60.
angrymen

Con

Lets look at some of his contractions.

Serious arguments.

My opponent answered question 2 yes, question 10 no, and question 11 yes. According to his number 2 answer that means all of his answers are correct otherwise he is contradicting himself. But by saying no to question 10 he is saying no mathematical symbol between 5 and 9 will get a number greater than 5 and less than 9. That symbol is a decimal point. 5.9 is less than nine but greater than 5. And since he concedes that a decimal point is a mathematical symbol in question 11 he is clearly contradicting himself. He answered a question incorrectly so he is contradicting his answer to question 2.

Also If either the New York Yankees or Washington National win their division series he is contradicting his answer of question number 2. So when you are voting if either of those teams won my opponent lost this debate.

Ok now on to my not serious argument mostly for my own pleasure as I am bored.

In questions 14 and 13 my opponent says he is not gay but has eaten a sausage. But the rules of the Internet (http://rulesoftheinternet.com...) clearly state in rule 3334 "Sausages are only eaten by gay men. No Exceptions." This clearly shows my opponent is contradicting himself. He is either a homosexual or has not eaten a sausage. No Exceptions.

Also in question in 17 he says the house that I live in doesn't have 4 bedrooms when it in fact does have 4.

Another contradiction is my opponent in question 18 says he is not a criminal and in 8 says he has not lied on DDO. As my opponent's DDO profile says he is 14 it is obvious he is contradicting himself as all 14 years males who have internet access have seen porn. As watching porn at 14 is a crime, my opponent is either a liar (contradicting question 8 and 2) or a criminal (contradicting question 18)

The last contradiction I will point out is in question 12 he answers no to Have you made a contradiction in this debate? So if my opponent has made the contradictions I have proved then he has contradicted himself yet again by answering this question no.

I believe I have proved that my opponent has contradicted himself in this debate meaning con wins.
Debate Round No. 3
emospongebob527

Pro

"Will your answer to this question be no?"

"If the answer to this question is no, is no the answer to this question?"

I would like to point out, regardless of whether or not I contradicted myself...... It is observable in the quoted questions that Con violated the rules. By playing semantics, which is clear violation of the rules......

Rounds 1 & 2- Con asks Pro ten yes or no questions.
Round 3- Con will state Pro's contradictions (if any).
Round 4- Pro will defend alleged contradictions (if any) or admit defeat and Con will attempt to refute Pro's round four defenses.

Pro reserves the right to define words according to the online version of the Merriam-Webster dictionary unless Con defines the word in his question.

No semantics
No trolling
No profanity
No vulgarity
Multiple negation is not allowed
The question: "Yes or No?" is not allowed as any of the R1 or R2 questions.

He violated Term 1 and Term 5........

Reason:
My opponent has not presented a logical question. He has presented a "loaded question". Aside from being a logical fallacy, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.

He represented a loaded question, which is a clear violation of the rules........ As stated in Term 5 "No Semantics"
Con failed to follow the rules,
Vote Pro.........
angrymen

Con

It seems my opponent has conceded my points and is trying to win a different way.

Semantics is defined as The meaning or the interpretation of a word, sentence, or other language form. http://www.thefreedictionary.com...

While a loaded question is defined as (of a question or statement) containing a hidden trap or implication. http://www.thefreedictionary.com...

My opponent claims I violated no semantics and Multiple negation is not allowed. But I never used double negatives in my questions so I have not violated that rule.

To start off I would like to say that the two loaded questions that I used neither had an effect on if my opponent contradicted himself. The questions while being logical fallacies are not semantics. In no way am I playing with the meaning of the words or sentences. I am offering a question with no right answers but still that is not playing with the meaning of words.

I have clearly in round 3 pointed out that my opponent made contradictions. He also in round four is trying to play the technicalities. I have not violated any of the rules he sent forth and have shown that my opponent contradicted himself.

VOTE CON
Debate Round No. 4
10 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by Dphect 4 years ago
Dphect
"15. Will the St. Louis Cardinals lose the series to the Washington Nationals in the NLDS?
"No."
16. Will The New York Yankees win their series against the Baltimore Oriels in the ALDS?"
"No."

After this you should have had a follow up question;
"Can you predict the future?"
Pro would most likely answer with a no and thus contradicting his previous aswers as his previous answers were implying he knows what is going to happen in the future (whether or not they will win).
Posted by emospongebob527 4 years ago
emospongebob527
5 and 1 I mean
Posted by emospongebob527 4 years ago
emospongebob527
Which is Term 1 and Term 5
Posted by emospongebob527 4 years ago
emospongebob527
As far as rule breaking goes he broke:

"No Semantics"

and

"Con asks Pro ten yes or no questions."
Posted by ishallannoyyo 4 years ago
ishallannoyyo
Semantics is how you're supposed to win as Con. The loaded questions were unfair though. Emospongebob, take up my contradiction challenge!
Posted by emospongebob527 4 years ago
emospongebob527
You violated the rules...........
Posted by Smithereens 4 years ago
Smithereens
Apologies, it just seems very hard. What would you say to this question: Yes or No?
Posted by emospongebob527 4 years ago
emospongebob527
Lol, you're so pessimistic XD
Posted by Smithereens 4 years ago
Smithereens
and how can you do this without semantics? :P Con will have to be a genius.
Posted by Smithereens 4 years ago
Smithereens
2 rounds? that's a bit tricky don't you reckon?
1 votes has been placed for this debate.
Vote Placed by RyuuKyuzo 4 years ago
RyuuKyuzo
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Reasons for voting decision: It seems to me that Pro is trying to shoe-horn Con's tactics into the rules he outlined so he can win on a technicality. I'm not convinced that Con is guilty of semantics nor am I convinced that he is guilty of multiple negation. Given this, it means that Con is not guilty of breaking any rules and Pro has dropped all of Con's arguments. Con takes the win