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vardas0antras
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Pat
Con (against)
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I will not contradict myself

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/9/2011 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Voting Period
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vardas0antras

Pro

Resolution: I, Vardas0antras, will not contradict myself Rules:
1. In Rounds 1-3, CON will ask PRO will ask questions which can be answered with a yes or no.
2.When Pro answers Yes or No, he should give an explanation for his answer.
3. Pro doesn't have to answer with a yes or no but if he does not answer with a yes or no, he must give us his reasons for this decision.
4. Con may ask only ten questions per round.
5. In round 4, Con will try to show us where Pro made a Contradiction.
6. In round 5 Pro will defend his opponents accusations. Then Con will summarize this debate.

Votes: The only vote in this debate shall be "who made the more convincing arguments". If a person gives votes for other things too, for example, "who had better sources" then he is considered a vote bomber. Furthermore, there shouldn't be any sources. ::Important::
Con can only use the information from this debate. So if I say that I like color blue but in my profile or another debate I said otherwise, my opponent will not be able to use this information.



Pat

Con

1) Is your name vardas0antras?

2) Does anyone in the real world address you as vardas0antras?

3) Do you believe in God?

4) Do you believe in one God by this I mean that there is ONLY one God) or many Gods? (No need to answer if you answer no to 3)

5) Are you a teenager?

6) Justin Bieber is a very good singer. Do you agree?

7) Are you male?

That will be all for now.

Debate Round No. 1
vardas0antras

Pro

1. No, my Christian name is very different.
2. Assuming that what you mean by "real world" is anywhere outside the internet, then no.
3. Yes, I prefer blind belief over science.
4. I believe in many Gods, 89 thousand to be exact.
5. No, I am 89 years old.
6. Yes, in fact he's my favorite. I love his hair.
7. I asked my friends, they didn't know but my guess is yes.


Pat

Con

1) Are you a Christian?

2) Does anybody on the Internet, or this site, address you in any other way than vardas0antras?

3) Is English your first language?

4) Do you live in Russia?

5) Do you like Pop music?

6) Justin Bieber is very handsome. Do you agree?

7) Do you believe that science can be correct?

8) Have you ever thought that the guess you mentioned in Round 1 is wrong?

That will be all.
Debate Round No. 2
vardas0antras

Pro

1. No, Christians aren't polytheists or at least most of them
2. Yes, V0A is a good example.
3. No, Lithuanian would be my first language.
4. Yes, however my parents and most of my friends are from Lithuania.
5. I think it depends on the artists so ultimately I have to say yes.
6. Absolutely, I want to marry him.
7. I believe that science is always correct for example there was a time when the earth was flat. However, I think blind belief is more important.
8. No, though its a guess I am rather certain.
Pat

Con

1) Do you believe in gay marriages?

2) Are you heterosexual?

3) Have you ever lied?

4) Can science prove things right/wrong?

5) Do you celebrate Christmas?

6) Should adults be allowed to marry minors?

6) Do you believe in Christianity? (Note: you must not be Christian to believe in it, you may be agnostic, for example)

7) Do you want to get married with Justin Bieber immediately, or within the next two years?

8) Have you ever considered a sex change operation?
Debate Round No. 3
vardas0antras

Pro

1. Yes, will you marry me ?
2. No, I'm a bisexual.
3. Yes, I lied about my drug addiction.
4. Yes, but it can't overpower blind belief.
5. Yes, I don't want to stick out.
6. Yes, it would create very funny and disturbing moments.
6 (part 2). No I don't believe in Christianity nor do I think it should exist.
7. I'm not sure, I suppose when I stop feeling like stalking someone. So the best answer I can think of is : Next two year
8. Yes, it would be an interesting change.
Pat

Con

Pat forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
vardas0antras

Pro

Let me point out the rules:
"5. In round 4, Con will try to show us where Pro made a Contradiction.
6. In round 5 Pro will defend his opponents accusations. Then Con will summarize this debate."
This means that my opponent lost his only chance to win the debate. Therefore, automatically I win this debate, thank you.

Vote Pro
Pat

Con

Round 4. I shall show where my opponent has contradicted himself.

He said his Christian name is not vardas0antras. But then he said that he believes in 89,000 Gods. A Christian name is the name given to a child upon baptism. Therefore, he is monotheist.

He is 89 years old. As such, he did not mention anything about child marriages. How could the parents of an 89 year old born in Lithuania (before 1920, to illustrate) are still alive?

Blind belief is more important than science. However, science is always correct. The Earth is not flat, that was a fallacy of the time's thinking, so then how can it always be correct?

He then says that he celebrates Christmas, yet thinks that Christianity shouldn't even exist! This has become a secular tradition over time, yet if you don't even think that the notion of Christianity is real or should even be around, why celebrate Christmas?

How can he have a sex change operation if he isn't even sure which sex he belongs to? For all he knows, he may even be inter-sexual!
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vardas0antras 5 years ago
vardas0antras
"Despite it all, we're tied :P"
Indeed, Im getting used to unfair voting to be honest.
Posted by Pat 5 years ago
Pat
Despite it all, we're tied :P

I'm saying we're tied because you said the only vote is the better argument vote, by which we're 3-3/1-1.
Posted by vardas0antras 5 years ago
vardas0antras
Sorry, but you presented your arguments in the last round, this doesn't count. You Lose.
Posted by vardas0antras 5 years ago
vardas0antras
I WIN :D, too bad there was no challenge, though.
Posted by Chrysippus 5 years ago
Chrysippus
Keep playing, Pat. The game ain't over.
Posted by vardas0antras 5 years ago
vardas0antras
"vardas0antras. i do not see the need to continue the debate since u hv already contradicted yourself."
Nope
Posted by Pat 5 years ago
Pat
vardas0antras. i do not see the need to continue the debate since u hv already contradicted yourself.
Posted by vardas0antras 5 years ago
vardas0antras
"quiza you"
QUIZO YO
Posted by vardas0antras 5 years ago
vardas0antras
quiza you chico ? :D
Posted by Pat 5 years ago
Pat
Damn, I was so gonna bring up the 71 year-old male thing
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct goes to pro because con didn't follow the rules. Further, I can't take con's round 5 arguments into account because pro wouldn't have a chance to defend himself. Pro did contradict himself, but con did not point it out in round 4 so I have to vote pro.
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