The Instigator
Chrysippus
Pro (for)
Losing
24 Points
The Contender
Xer
Con (against)
Winning
25 Points

I will probably lose my first debate on DDO

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after 10 votes the winner is...
Xer
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/28/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,779 times Debate No: 9356
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (19)
Votes (10)

 

Chrysippus

Pro

First, my thanks to whomever takes me up on this, my first debate on this site.
Second, my contention: I will lose my first debate on this site.

My opening arguments are:
a) As I have never debated on this site before, I am relatively inexperienced at formal debate, at least in this setting. Having read many of the past debates on this site, it is clear that the kind of reasoner who may be reasonably expected to take me up on a debate of this nature are the experienced logic enthusiasts; ergo, I will likely lose.

b) If, my some mischance, I win the argument with my opponent, this will automatically invalidate the contention. Having won, I will not have lost; and thus cannot win.

This could be fun...
Xer

Con

I thank my opponent for the debate and wish him good luck. Also, welcome to DDO.

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"a) As I have never debated on this site before, I am relatively inexperienced at formal debate, at least in this setting. Having read many of the past debates on this site, it is clear that the kind of reasoner who may be reasonably expected to take me up on a debate of this nature are the experienced logic enthusiasts; ergo, I will likely lose."

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>My opponent is perhaps right to conclude that he may lose the "convincing arguments" section of this debate because of his inexperience, but that section is only 3 points. There are three more sections that add up to 4 points that has nothing to do with logic or experience. Pro could very welll win those sections and beat Con 4-3.

"b) If, my some mischance, I win the argument with my opponent, this will automatically invalidate the contention. Having won, I will not have lost; and thus cannot win."

>This is not a contention. My opponent can get the less votes than me, which would be a loss for him. He can also get more votes than me, which would be a win for him. Regardless if the voting contradicts the contention, Con can either win or lose.

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1) I forfeit this debate, including this round and all rounds that follow. I concede. My opponent wins. I lose. Therefore, I have negated the resolution.
Debate Round No. 1
Chrysippus

Pro

Thank you for taking the time to answer what is, as has been kindly pointed out to me, a very unoriginal line...

I find, however, that I cannot agree that your resignation is in any way a loss on your part. As you point out, the winning or losing on these debates is in the hands of the voters. I was not expecting you to resign; you have clearly negated my contention, and leave me no choice but to resign in turn.

Voters, it is clearly your responsibility to vote Con.
Xer

Con

"...you have clearly negated my contention..."

I win.
Debate Round No. 2
Chrysippus

Pro

Just to get this debate closed and to the voters quicker, I will be briefly filling in these extra boxes.

@ Nags: Thanks for the debate! I enjoyed it, even though it only lasted a few minutes...
Xer

Con

Your welcome.
Debate Round No. 3
Chrysippus

Pro

End of post.
Xer

Con

Thanks for the debate.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by lelanatty 7 years ago
lelanatty
This is hilarious. Con is supposed to prove the Con side and then accepts his win?
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
That doesn't matter. "Who is right?" has no weight.
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
Hey, PRO was actually right.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
Why did PRO get any points?
Posted by youguysaredouches 7 years ago
youguysaredouches
I beat Nags in a debate saying I would lose and pretended that I wanted him to win just to get my point across.
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
Lol! One way or the other... I lose! Whether I win at the same time is irrelevant...
Posted by GodSands 7 years ago
GodSands
Ok your now winning to the votes and losing to the title.
Posted by GodSands 7 years ago
GodSands
According to the title your winning, to the votes you are losing.
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
Winning which way?
Posted by GodSands 7 years ago
GodSands
So Pro is winning!
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