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IB IVF Debate

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Started: 5/12/2016 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Raizel

Pro

IVF is beneficial for patients who would be unable to conceive; those with blocked tubes, a low ovarian reserve, male infertility, unexplained infertility, polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), Endometriosis, and menopause. It also helps single women and same sex couples, who want children but aren't in the optimal situation to have any, and helps with the diagnosis of fertilization problems. The ultimate advantage is achieving a successful and healthy baby. IVF is more successful than IUI and other assisted reproductive technology; its success rates have increased every single year due to the technological advances being made. ("The UK's Pioneering Fertility Clinics")
evandebates

Con

When looking at IVF of course it is seen as a positive alternative for parents, but there is no consideration for babies who are born from the IVF system. This is a fairly new system and is currently at a 25% rate of success in parents who are trying to have a baby ("The Pros and Cons of IVF." Arizona PBS. PBS, n.d. Web. 27 Apr. 2016.) You previously mentioned why females with disorders in their reproductive system tend to seek this, well IVF has in many cases left a healthy woman with ovarian hyper-stimulation syndrome ( "The Pros and Cons of IVF." Arizona PBS. PBS, n.d. Web. 27 Apr. 2016.).
Debate Round No. 1
Raizel

Pro

The IVF system has been around for over 35 years and has created 5 million babies; meaning that this has positively impacted 5 million family lives. (Brian, "The Guardian", 2013) Although the IVF cycle may be unsuccessful, there is a possibility of something going wrong in all things that we do. IVF varies from woman to woman, and a fertility specialist can give more insight into the likelihood of success. ("The UK's Pioneering Fertility Clinics", 2014) The use of fewer or no drugs in natural and mild IVF cycles means small likelihood of developing side effects, along with more babies being born at full term and a higher birth weight. Fertility clinics should have single embryo transfer policies to avoid the risk of a multiple pregnancy and those that are considering the process should plan out costs and financing. There are also options for low-cost treatment, such as egg sharing. ("The UK's Pioneering Fertility Clinics", 2014)
evandebates

Con

Like i said, and thank you for supporting my argument. 35 years is fairly new and there has not been enough times to watch the full lives of these IVF born children to see what affects they show in older age. In IVF treatments, there is often more than one embryo put back into the uterus, and this leads to a higher likelihood of multiple pregnancy; around 20-30% of IVF pregnancies are multiple pregnancies. Multiple pregnancies do carry associated health risks to mother and baby: there is an increased chance of premature labor, miscarriage, stillbirth and infant health problems with multiple pregnancies. So the statement that only a single embryo is implanted is false. ("The Pros and Cons of IVF." Arizona PBS. PBS, n.d. Web. 27 Apr. 2016.) The idea of selecting some embryos and potentially discarding others may not sit well with everybody. This raises the ethical issue that playing god shouldn't be allowed or given to a certain individual.
Debate Round No. 2
Raizel

Pro

Researchers wouldn't allow for the IVF process to be available if they were extremely worried about the future risks for those born children. They are continuously checking up on those that had come from IVF and finding new ways to prevent/protect the mothers and the children. The first IVF child may have been born in 1978 but studies were conducted in previous years. It's known that animal research can give insight into human effects and there had been experiments on mice; which allowed data to be collected that gives us a look into what people can expect from IVF. (Massy-Beresford, "The Guardian", 2014) Also, I never stated that a single embryo is implanted. I had said that fertility clinics should have single embryo transfer policies; meaning that some do allow for one embryo to be placed inside the uterus, if wanting to significantly decrease the chances of a multiple pregnancy. ("The UK's Pioneering Fertility Clinics", 2014) There have been improvements in the techniques and success rates have increased with the transferring fewer embryos, making it a more common process. (Massy-Beresford, "The Guardian", 2014) Genetic screening of embryos is beneficial. Preimplantation genetic screening (PGS) is the removal of one or more cells from an IVF embryo to test DNA normalcy. This screens for chromosome number, so it can detect any disease that has an extra or missing chromosome. The actual chromosomal abnormalities are what cause 50% of the IVF failure implantation and 70% of miscarriages. ("PGS") Therefore IVF can be helpful in preventing miscarriages and implantation failure.
evandebates

Con

Well when the procedure is as expensive at it is, the researchers have little say and money talks. Can you prove that researches have been checking those patients because i do not see a source for any of that following information. I can see what you meant, but while providing your opinion on what policy should be, it doesn't change the what the current procedure is. the procedure that you agreed was dangerous due to multiple embryo implantation. I will agree that over time everything will become more promising and better results but at the time it is a dangerous procedure for mother and child that from the facts I would not recommend.
Debate Round No. 3
Raizel

Pro

People usually look at the possible repercussions when putting themselves in a situation as such. Also, (Massy-Beresford, "The Guardian", 2014) is the source where the researchers discuss checking up on the IVF children every few years to see what possible effects it has. Multiple embryo implantation occurs for an increased success rate, and the excess of embryo problem can be addressed. One could donate to other infertile couples or medical research; this allows for the excess embryos to benefit the future of others. Donating to medical research gives the embryos a status between a clump of cells and actual children, which is something that most people have problems with. It also may be able to discover things that can help save other lives, since embryo stem cells are known to have specific stem cells that can develop into any type of cell needed. Another way to deal with excess embryos is thawing without donating; the embryos "pass on naturally" and some couples hold a ceremony while they"re thawing. If the decision is hard, one could postpone the decision, or get more help from a counselor or make a list of pros and cons. ("Parenting")
evandebates

Con

Switching over to the labor part of IVF, the women who have the procedure, many seem to have trouble while giving birth to an IVF child. Many suffer from an ectopic pregnancy ("The Pros and Cons of IVF." Arizona PBS. PBS, n.d. Web. 27 Apr. 2016.). What this means is that the embryo might travel past the uterus and plant within the Fallopian tubes, destroying the womens reproductive systems. Besides that if a baby is born, the weight and prematurity of the baby due to the higher estrogen levels than usual leads to an unhealthy baby. ("Two Sides to the Debate on IVF." NewsComAu. N.p., n.d. Web. 27 Apr. 2016.)
Debate Round No. 4
Raizel

Pro

The reality of IVF is that it gives hopes to infertile couples that have believed there to be no chance of them having their own children, and gives them a chance to fulfill a dream. The general procedures begins with basic screenings given to both partners of IVF " which helps predict how well the ovaries will respond to the drugs. Consents have to be signed by all people and then there"s six basic steps: the monitoring and stimulation for the development of healthy eggs in the ovaries, collection of eggs, securing of sperm, then combining the eggs and sperm together in the laboratory, creating the appropriate environment for fertilization and early embryo growth, and the transfer of embryos in the uterus is last. ("In Vitro Fertilization") In all, IVF allows for a family to be completed, people to be happy, and for a possibility of lives being saved.
evandebates

Con

In the successful cases IVF will offer an alternative solution to produce children for themselves. We are debating the IVF topic due to the facts and information we have gathered. Your last point holds validity to me because fulfilling dreams is what IVF was created for. But i will still hold to my point that due to the youth of this procedure, and the higher risk for mother and fetus, i would not risk the health and possible life of the woman that was undergoing the procedure nor us parents emotionally scarred and the guilt of producing a miscarriage or unhealthy child into this world.
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