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JangoFett69
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Kaluka
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ISIS is a USA government made organisation to achieve goals un-achievable by regular conquest

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Started: 12/23/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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JangoFett69

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ISIS, ISIL or Daesh are a false flag organisation, it has been said by Vladimir Putin that Turkey, a member of NATO is funding the terror group to fulfil western political interests. But it doesn't end there, ISIS have been seen often with western military equipment, stingers, brand new shiny Toyota pick-ups, technology that can be supplied only by a capable nation's arms trade. This is no doubt allocated through the gulf states that are also funding and facilitating ISIS's sale of oil, this can be prevented easily by sanctions, but they are not being stopped as Arabia is too valuable an asset to give up.
The west 'responds' to their staged, false-flag events (Charlie Hebdo, Paris attacks) that makes blind violence a popular opinion in social media despite there being other attacks in less well-off countries, the bombing runs are executed with great imbecility against ISIS targets as opposed to simply cutting-off their supply lines, which should be an obvious course of action, instead the West uptakes direct action to cover-up the fact that ISIS is supplied by them. In the process of doing this, the west are purposely feeding a Jihadi ideology and rekindling the crusade dilemma that has cursed the middle east for generations, it's counter-intuitive to do this and implies that the West want war as it is profitable, it puts Israel in power in the middle east and it gives the USA access to oil as well as eliminating Bashar Al-Assad, who is Russia's sole main ally in the region. It also drives multiculturalism into the Western world which creates a power vacuum in the middle east, creates isolated, parallel societies and the terrorism puts enmity between people - it boosts the controllable slavery in the serfdom of the west.
This is not helped by the fact the Zionist USA is legislating Israel's bombing runs of neighbouring Syria and Palestine and driving out their native populaces, then duping these people to believe they are the 'saviours' of these people, when the main stir-up was instigated by their bombs, their Israel and their ISIS. It's all a power-grab and you know it.
Kaluka

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now what I would like to say is that isis is not not a us made org because of the fact that what us did was legal and henceforth an illegal thing cannot be formed out of legal works that too to end terrorism. now if we look at the present scenario if the Russian federation is doing airstrikes it may give born to another org more brutal more corrupt than the Islamic state. now how were us works or intervention in Iraq in 2003 were legal. us and the saddam Hussein govt had signed a convention in 1990. when Iraq violated this agreement in 2001 us was not at all obliged to be silent and henceforth intervened Iraq. this intervention was also legal because of united nations security council resolution 673 clause 34.
now what us wants in the middle east. it has its military interests only in the Israeli region speaking frankly. usa gets oil easily from middle east and itself is able to meet its needs. Israel is the foothead of usa in the middle east. so what usa wants is available to it now..
Debate Round No. 1
JangoFett69

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Kaluka

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Debate Round No. 2
JangoFett69

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Kaluka

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i believe that my opponent has nothing to say and can never say anything and has always lost in every competition of his life. now why is isis is not usa made this because of 9/11 attacks after these attacks usa started the war on terror and would be ending any organisation that creates terror. usa can practically not create any organisation thus the topic created by jango----etc is completely ridiculous and henceforth the debate ends when it is legally and practically not possible to create a terrorist organisation in another country that too that attacks the owner of that country(California firings)
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