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amekhail
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IVF Debate

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Started: 4/28/2016 Category: Science
Updated: 7 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Dhenderson0870

Pro

Couples with damaged fallopian tubes, male infertility, or a host of other problems conceiving a child, such as premature menopause or old age, will be able to produce viable offspring, regardless of their unfortunate circumstances. This process provides hope to those who have succumb to misfortune, and takes what was once barren waste and bestows upon it a new era of fertility and possibility! For many couples, this can be life changing. Who would want to deny these folks, mired in destitution of spirit, a chance to bring some semblance of happiness to themselves? Surely not I.
amekhail

Con

While yes, IVF may be helpful to infertile couples, you need to understand that the success rate declines as the age increases in women. According to web M.D, women 35 and younger have a 39.6% fertility rate while women over 40 have a 11.5% of having a child. While yes, this does give couples a chance, the rate is too low, especially with the cost, having it cost about $12,400.
Debate Round No. 1
Dhenderson0870

Pro

As the science advances and technology improves, it will be possible to improve the success rate of IVF, and accordting to createfertile.com, the success rate has steadily risen the longer the technology has been around. Besides, what i money worth when love and family are on the line? CNS news reports that the average american couple makes upwards of 60,000 dollars a year. The treatment may be relatively expensive, but I promise, the monetary cost is the least of these couples concerns! They're trying to begin a family! If a couple feels so inclined to spend their hard earned cash to begin a family, isn't that their right? In addition, createfertile.com also suggests that as technology improves, it will be possible to screen out those embryos which are damaged or will result in low weight, highly diseased offspring, which would even further improve the rate of success, and would likely help to prevent many hereditary conditions and afflictions.
amekhail

Con

You may feel that money is not an issue, especially when trying to have a family, i do agree with you to an extent. But, in order to support a family, to make sure they're clothed and fed, you need the money. You need to provide housing for your family, and if the procedure is out of your financial budget, then how are you able to to nurture your children and provide the best for them. On top of that, there will be many social issues that would arise. PBS states that marriage would be replaced and the children would become socially ostracized. Having a good family structure is key to raising children. When you don't have two role models in their lives to take care of them and teach them because a women wanted a child but didn't want to get married or have another partner, they will grow up and not know how to fight into society. There is also concerns for them being excluded or judged because they're different. They wont be seen normal because they were created in a lab and not like everyone else.
Debate Round No. 2
Dhenderson0870

Pro

You're right! It sounds like we also think that single mothers cannot do a good job and should have their children taken from them and placed in foster care- NOT. When they say it takes a village to raise a child, they aren't being hyperbolic. A child is influenced by far more than their parents. According to NCBI.gov, peers and friends actually have MORE influence over a child than the parents do! This is besides the point. Let us not pretend that IVF is the central reason for single parents. A single person can adopt, can foster children, or a spouse can die or separate. This procedure is not responsible for any sort of abolition of the tradition two parent model, and Psychology Today reported that children raised in single parent households more or less fair just as well as their double parent counterpart.
amekhail

Con

You do have a point with that. While yes, SOME single parents can raise a child, you have to take into account that it would be hard for MOST single parents to raise a child. Most of those parents work two jobs and struggle financially trying to take care of their child or children. They live off of each paycheck and this is not a good environment to raise a child in. This will develop social issues for the child. On top of that, according to createhealth.org, There is evidence that high oestrogen levels associated with high stimulation IVF can cause prematurity of birth and low birth weight. This has been linked to long-term health problems for the child. So while you can select which eggs you want to use to stop birth defects, there is still a chance that something could go wrong.
Debate Round No. 3
Dhenderson0870

Pro

Dhenderson0870 forfeited this round.
amekhail

Con

You do have a point with that. While yes, SOME single parents can raise a child, you have to take into account that it would be hard for MOST single parents to raise a child. Most of those parents work two jobs and struggle financially trying to take care of their child or children. They live off of each paycheck and this is not a good environment to raise a child in. This will develop social issues for the child. On top of that, according to createhealth.org, There is evidence that high oestrogen levels associated with high stimulation IVF can cause prematurity of birth and low birth weight. This has been linked to long-term health problems for the child. So while you can select which eggs you want to use to stop birth defects, there is still a chance that something could go wrong.
Debate Round No. 4
Dhenderson0870

Pro

It seems as though you believe that if there are risks involved than we must avoid a practice entirely! I could rattle off about the risk of intrusive surgeries, but I think we can an unanimously agree that the benefit of life saving operations out weighs the risk. Following that chain of thought, I think we can all agree that fertility treatments far out weigh their risks. Having a child is an enormous decision, and these parents are sure they are willing to make the gamble! Either way, the longer the technology is around and in wide spread use, the more we will discover about it, and the safer and more efficient it will become. This argument of detrimental risk defeats itself on its premise, as using the technology by virtue of its being IMPROVES on the safety of the procedure!
amekhail

Con

While the technology is becoming safer and more accessible, we cannot forget about the ethics involving this. When you have the eggs taken out, not all the eggs are fertilized. The ones that are not fertilized are frozen and that raises questions on when life begins. Parents can even choose to destroy the eggs as well. Not only that, sometimes more than one egg is fertilized and it gives expecting parents more than they wanted. This was the case with octo mom. Yes, the doctor did lose his license, but the octo mom still ended up with 8 kids.
Debate Round No. 5
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