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revleader5
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Hypnodoc
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If a person forfeits more rounds than they debated in during a debate,they should automatically lose

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Started: 5/27/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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revleader5

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It is impossible to say that if a person forfeits for example two of three rounds and the other one gives a solid 3 rounds, that the forfeiting person should still have a decent shot at winning.
Hypnodoc

Con

Thank you Revleader for this debate, I am looking forward to a good exchange.

My opponents opening statement is as follows.

It is impossible to say that if a person forfeits for example two of three rounds and the other one gives a solid 3 rounds, that the forfeiting person should still have a decent shot at winning.

My only goal then is to prove that it is indeed possible for an individual to forfeit several rounds of a debate and still have a shot at winning.

Contention:

If a debater were to make an argument in the first round of a debate that were logically and philosophically incontrovertible, That individual would still have the upper hand in the debate regardless of the arguments put forth by his opponent.

Likewise if his opponent were to put forth a few solid rounds that were illogical and devoid of any merit the forfeiting individual would still have the upper hand in the debate.

With this simple contention I have shown that it is possible for an individual to forfeit and still have the upper hand in a debate.
Debate Round No. 1
revleader5

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By "solid rounds" I mean decent.If a person gives three decent rounds and the other one forfeits more than they even debated, they should by principal lose. I rarely vote for someone who forfeits even once.
Hypnodoc

Con

"I rarely vote for someone who forfeits even once."

This is opinion and should not be taken as a factual statement.

It does not matter how many rounds are used in a debate, Though I will admit it is not exactly polite.

The fact remains that if an argument is posted that is so persuasive and factually correct that it could not be refuted the one who posted it would still win regardless of the forfeiture of future rounds.

You can make a Decent argument that the earth is flat however a single factual representation of anything else would still win the debate.

Unless the rules of the specific debate state that an individual will lose if they forfeit a round it is possible to be victorious.
Debate Round No. 2
revleader5

Pro

" "I rarely vote for someone who forfeits even once."

This is opinion and should not be taken as a factual statement."

Okay, I'll put this into better terms, 5 times I've voted for someone who forfeited once. I've probably voted on hundreds of things. Now it is an unreputable fact.

To conclude, you have THREE DAYS to post an argument, if you forfeit a round that means that either you were stupid and went away while you had debates going, or you were stupid and didn't post anything. I know that sometimes you get busy and can't help it, but forfeiting is nothing more than not having the drive.
Hypnodoc

Con

Closing:

My opponent is correct in many things that you have three days to post your argument is clearly one of them. However, the rules of a democratic site and society dictate that an individual has the freedom to vote in what ever manner they so choose.

When a person accepts a Debate I do believe they should finish the debate however I also believe that all valid points should be considered when voting on a debate. Do I think it rude not to complete all of your rounds yes I do but as the rules do not consider it grounds for immediate loss in the debate neither can we, for once we do we are no longer a democratic debate society.

All arguments weather trivial or not weather forfeited or not should be weighed when voting on a debate.

I have shown that it is Possible for an individual to win a debate based on the sole veracity of the opening statement.
We have all tried to win a debate in the closing.

If the possibility is there for success even if you have forfeiture then automatic loss should not occur.

In this debate society everyone is given the ability to vote as they deem fit this includes voting as my opponent has for people that have forfeited rounds
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by leethal 8 years ago
leethal
Touche. I suppose he was calling his own facts "unreputable" then. Seems like debate suicide to me, though.
Posted by brittwaller 8 years ago
brittwaller
"Irrefutable," actually:) characters...
Posted by leethal 8 years ago
leethal
"Now it is an unreputable fact."

Unrefutable?
Posted by Derek.Gunn 8 years ago
Derek.Gunn
Some debates can be won with single sentence.

What does it matter if one forfeits after that?
Posted by Logical-Master 8 years ago
Logical-Master
Bingo, leethal. :D (25 characters).
Posted by leethal 8 years ago
leethal
What about if a person forfeits 2 of his 3 rounds. Under your plan, he/she should deserve to lose, right? What if his opponent forfeits all 3 rounds?
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