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MiaWaran
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Buddahcall
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If ebola breaks out in US first, would things be different?

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Buddahcall
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Started: 10/20/2014 Category: Health
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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MiaWaran

Pro

Ebola is a disease that kills up to 90% of those infected. There are five strains, and the one in the West Africa is the Zaire Strain. The symptoms of Ebola include headache, vomiting, diarrhea, and bleeding. However, this disease will not spread in America.

It is widely known, and proven, that Ebola only spreads through bodily fluids of an infected person who is already showing symptoms. That significantly increases the disease efficiency in poor and illiterate places, such as Africa, where people are not properly warned about how Ebola spreads. Ebola is spreading in Africa quickly because many Africans perform burial rituals, where other members of the family kiss and hug the corpse, spreading the disease. People who cannot read do not know not to touch or help a sick person, which means bodily fluids infect the person handling the victim.

America is a much more literate and richer country, meaning people are aware as to how Ebola spreads and not to touch an infected person. Furthermore, American people are much more likely to isolate themselves if he/she thinks that they have Ebola, as he/she will know the symptoms of Ebola and if they were or are at risk of Ebola. Many Africans, however, do not know. Thus, it is very logical to believe that the U.S will not suffer any higher than 3 million people infected.

The conclusion here is that America is a much more developed country, and Ebola is not known to thrive in countries like the US. They have guidelines set, many Americans are aware of Ebola, and we know when and how to seek medical help. Their doctors are far more advanced, and they have a greater amount of hospitals with better equipment than Africa does.
Buddahcall

Con

First, Ebola right now kills about 70% in Africa due to the poor conditions and lack of medical facilities. It is estimated to be closer to 50% in a place like America because we have in place facilities with special units to take care of our sick, but that is only for the beginning. We have not seen anything like this disease in America, and for the first 100 cases or even the first 1000 we might be OK, but an epidemic from this type of virus is nothing to take lightly.

It only takes one man who is infected in New York City that sneezes into his hand, and then touches a hand rail in the subway to cause exponential infection. Eventually we run out of beds, eventually health workers stay home as the risk becomes too great. Believing that your government will keep you save is a foolish notion.

To your other points, It is widely known in Africa as well as these people have had to deal with it in the past, even an illiterate man can communicate word of mouth and the information spreads. They stopped burials in Liberia for instance as soon as the outbreak was realized.

We may be more literate, and more wealthy, but Ebola does not care about your income or your ability to read. People do not realize the difference between Aerosol and Airborne, you can still be infected by a sneeze or a cough in your direction. You claim that we will not suffer more that 3 million cases, OK but do even know what a 1% infection rate would mean? there are only 2.8 million nurses in the United States, If we even hit anywhere near your estimation, then you may as well just sit back and let the virus run its course. The virus mutates every single day, if it were to mutate to an airborne virus then all bets are off. After say 10000 cases facilities shut down, since the outbreak will likely be concentrated in our population centers, how many cases before our economy shuts down if it hits hard in say New York, who is going to want to get in a dirty cab, let alone drive one, or ride on mass transit, how long before people just stop going to work, wall street shuts down banks close, hospitals overfill, I am not saying that it will happen only that it is a serious possibility should it get out of control. In that scenario our resources are no better than those in Liberia.
Debate Round No. 1
MiaWaran

Pro

MiaWaran forfeited this round.
Buddahcall

Con

When the second nurse in Dallas came up positive, she had not even been on the short list of people being monitored for the for the disease. She self monitored and then reported that she had a fever, the CDC then cleared her to fly......Over the Telephone. This is the very Agency charged to protect us from this virus. We have teams in place, and there have been hospitals that have come forward with special beds in their hospital offering to take on patients, but the number of beds per hospital is 1-3 for a total of 7 beds in the entire country. Sure more are coming but nothing near what is necessary for what could happen.

You mention that Ebola is not know to thrive in places like the United States, but this is only because it has never been released here, with the exception of a lab incident at Ft Dietrich in 1985, luckily lab personnel or I should say person in this case was able to contain it and never showed symptoms. The Virus does not exist here in nature, which should tell you that it is very unlikely Americans at least those that are not of African decent will have any natural defenses against the Virus. For instance there are a few cases of the Black Death, or the Plague that wiped out most of Europe in the middle ages that are reported in America every year, The Virus has been found in several dead rodents in our National Parks, though this virus does not run wild like it did in Europe largely because we have a natural immunity to the virus that we inherited from Survivors of the Plague, Even many Latin Americans have this immunity due to inter racial relations that occurred with European Settlers, Explorers, Conquistadors ext. However the Plague is killing thousands of people right now in Norther Madagascar where the villagers had not had a massive exposure prior.
Debate Round No. 2
MiaWaran

Pro

MiaWaran forfeited this round.
Buddahcall

Con

I suppose I have said what I have to say. Thank you
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Max.Wallace 2 years ago
Max.Wallace
All true, tough to find a taker I bet.
Posted by Mike_10-4 2 years ago
Mike_10-4
It is also "widely known, and proven," where Ebola, like any other virus, mutates and could soon be airborne. So when sitting next to an Ebola neighbor, on a flight, bus, train, etc., enjoy the fresh air.

I feel sorry for the first person to verify when Ebola mutates to an airborne agent.

As for "America is a much more developed country, and Ebola is not known to thrive in countries like the US." Tell that to those "more developed" American healthcare professionals in Dallas who contracted Ebola from our African neighbor.
Posted by Vox_Veritas 2 years ago
Vox_Veritas
Well said sir. I likewise believe that there is little risk of a large Ebola outbreak in the United States.
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