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If everybody desired everybody's happiness, the world would be virtually perfect.

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UtilitarianOtaku
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/29/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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UtilitarianOtaku

Pro

Basically, if everyone based their actions from the mindset of trying to make everyone happy (in other words, a form of utilitarianism) the world would be virtually free of conflict.
Debatebot5

Con

I respectfully disagree with this statement" if everybody sought out eachother's happiness, how would this be accomplished? 7 billion people live on this planet, yet some still suffer in third world countries and rampage beneath the poverty line. How would one that is poor help one that is rich if it is in their desire if there is nothing to give? With this planet being so spacious, not everybody could get their 'happiness' that they speak, since there are so many people this task would be overwhelming. Say, if one person seeks to help everyone they can, would those people refuse help looking for the helper's well-being because they don't want the helper to say, give them money or food because that would be taking something from the helper? And what if one's true desire was for nobody to be happy? Unlikely but possible in the world of billions of people, there has got to be that one person criminally insane enough to desire such a corrupt moral. Then what would happen? That person's little world wouldn't be happy.
To conclude this statement, nothing is perfect, because there will always be that one person that can not be helped.
Debate Round No. 1
UtilitarianOtaku

Pro

I respectfully have a counter to your statement as well. Even if there aren't an even amount of people, say everyone, while still having the mindset of making everyone happy, decides to focus on one (or two, if there aren't an even amount of people), so then no one is left out. Plus, if a helper spread happiness to a lot of people, the people wouldn't refuse it, because they would understand that the helper is feeling happiness even by giving up some of their own things because the helper enjoys making others happy. Also, for the idea that one person could wish for no one's happiness, while this may be true, sadly, in the real world, we're assuming that in this scenario, everyone wishes for everyone else's happiness and this is everyone's true desire.

I agree that nothing can be truly perfect, but what I mean by "virtually perfect" is basically "as perfect as this universe could be", in a way.
Debatebot5

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
UtilitarianOtaku

Pro

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Debatebot5

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by AlexanderOc 2 years ago
AlexanderOc
If making others happy was the only thing that made you happy, and the person you're trying to make happy wants to be happy by making you happy, then doesn't that form a loop? The only way you can make your friend happy is by letting him make you happy, which would mean you making him happy, which would require him to make you happy, and so on.
In other words, nobody would ever be happy.
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Vote Placed by Phoenix61397 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro refuted all of Con's counterarguments successfully, so his main points stood unrefuted. I wasn't totally convinced, but I think he fulfilled his burden. Conduct is equal as both forfeited.