If we lived in a virtual reality (like the Matrix), should we fight to be free of it
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But even if the machines had created the Matrix for us to live in a better world, or we had created it, I'd still be opposed to it. Like I said, I believe that our ability to advance our species so far from where we began is what defines us, and if we let go of that, then we let go of everything that has been built up for us just so that we can enjoy ourselves. With that mentality, what would happen to future generations? What would they do with the world we would inevitably neglect by living in a simulation? Would they try to live in it, and make it live again? Or would they give up, and join us in this better world, the simulation, and continue this neglect? I imagine that many people would give up on the real world, with an "ignorance is bliss" mentality, until we neglected everything so badly that our population would be badly crippled, and maybe even lead to extinction. And even if we didn't go extinct, the remaining humans would be back at humanity's square one after centuries of neglect, and we would be back to the Stone Age.
This is the opt-in round for anyone interested in debating this. Just a philosophical debate on this subject, no evidence needed to back up your opinion. Felt like doing this in light of the fact that I recently watched the Matrix, and loved it.
There would be no perceptual difference between the reality we perceive today and one we perceive in a virtual reality. We could still do all the things we want to do. Scientists could still develope new things to better our lives. Artists could still paint. Writers could still write. Would a story written by a writer in a virtual reality have less value than a writer in the real world? Who knows???? Perhaps virtual reality is the next stage in human evolution. And fighting it would simply be us resisting change and trying to cling to the past.
Ask yourself what makes us humans.... is it climbing mountains? Swimming in oceans? Eating and drinking? babboons climb mountains. Fish swim. All animals eat and drink. Only 3 things put us apart from animals. Human interaction, art and contemplation. In a virtual reality the mountain climbing and ocean swimming wouldn't be real....but the human interaction, art and anything we contemplate would.
I would therefore be content living in a virtual reality.
Ps.....would whoever controls this simulation please make my next girlfriend blonde, blue eyed with d-cups and a mute lol
You say that there would be no perceptual difference, and therefore that makes it okay. But you did not address my point of what would inevitably happen to this planet if we just let ourselves live in an artificial world. What would happen to the Earth if we neglected it in favor of virtual reality? As I said, the next generation would probably not be so eager to pick up the mess that would be left when the previous generation decided to live in a dream world. They would likely end up joining into this virtual world, with the mentality that they could live a better life inside it. This mentality would also likely be the next generation's as well. They would be born into a neglected world, with the conditions worsening, and then many of them would want to forget about the real, crumbling one, to live in a better one.
As conditions worsened and worsened, more generations would make this same decision, and then eventually our willful neglect would catch up to us. We might even face extinction, depending on if the virtual world could be maintained in the wasteland that would likely be the product of our neglect. If that were true, people would still go into this virtual reality, unwilling to rebuild everything, to be back in the Stone Age if they could live in a better world immediately. If the virtual world did fail, we would be forced, as a species, to start over. If we could get those people out, we might be able to start over, but if the people in the dream world couldn't be freed, then the very few who might live outside of it would be hard pressed to rebuild anything. We would face extinction. None of these outcomes are very good for us as a species.
Looking forward to seeing your rebuttal to my arguments above, and again, thanks for accepting my debate!
In short, not a whole lot of outcomes seem like they'd be desirable. The only ones that seem to be also seem to hinge on self-control, something I believe this generation is very hard-pressed to learn. Being slaves would be far from good, and neglecting this world would send us back to the Stone Age. The only real way to avoid VR being a bad thing is to regulate ourselves, and if we ever make VR, I just hope that we are capable of controlling ourselves. Thank you for debating me, it's been a good debate. And I apologize if I sound a bit jaded for a 15-year old, it's just how I am.
(Yeah, it's closing statement time.)
As for your question, would I remain in the system or fight????
I believe I already stated my case in my first argument. As long as human existance wasn't in peril i'd be content to remain in the system. Thanks for a interesting debate and best wishes for the future.
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