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ItsWookieeTime
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Puck
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"Illegal" Downloading

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/6/2009 Category: Technology
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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ItsWookieeTime

Pro

I use quotations around Illegal because I ask you, is it?

I pay a monthly fee for a service rendered to me. This service I receive is the internet. In turn what I get from the internet should be considered paid for as I am paying for a monthly service.
Puck

Con

"I use quotations around Illegal because I ask you, is it?"

That would depend on what you download and its copyright status.

"I pay a monthly fee for a service rendered to me. This service I receive is the internet. In turn what I get from the internet should be considered paid for as I am paying for a monthly service."

No. You pay an ISP which allows you to access via the internet to sites where those sites have no other requirements for access. It is analogous to paying a toll to use a private road. The toll gives you access to the road, not additional controlling property rights to every car that uses the road. Likewise paying entry into an art gallery does not give you instant control over the artwork that is displayed inside.

Content may be free to view/listen/download or it may not. It depends on the status of the information itself. For that information that is protected via copyright, the property owner of that information has every right not to have their intellectual property stolen from them via downloading. The proper purpose of law is to protect individual rights. Property is one such right.
Debate Round No. 1
ItsWookieeTime

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ItsWookieeTime forfeited this round.
Puck

Con

Seems Wookie closed his account.

Wookie fail.
Debate Round No. 2
ItsWookieeTime

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Fun times..
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by PervRat 7 years ago
PervRat
Probably wookie.
Posted by Puck 7 years ago
Puck
Hmm..wonder who voted for Wookie.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
I need to get an opinion on intellectual property. I'm currently undecided. Is anyone here against it?
Posted by RoyLatham 7 years ago
RoyLatham
Possibly the Federales found Pro and carted him off for his non-debate Internet activities ...

By Pro's logic, once you have bought ammo you should have the right to shoot anything.
Posted by Rezzealaux 7 years ago
Rezzealaux
I'm assuming you're talking about downloading, say, music. Or movies.
It's technically stealing because your ISP does not own the music/movie you are downloading.
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