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Illegal Immigration / A good thing for America

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Started: 11/19/2012 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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What are your views in regards of illegal immigration? Are you against it? Why? I'm ready to debate, I will only use FACTS and logical conclusions. Please do not even think about debating if you do not plan on using EVIDENCE. Let's have a civilized logical debate ;)


It is only a good thing for business looking to exploit workers.

For America as a nation it leads to lower GDP per capita, and no way in hell is that "A good thing".

But sure keep it going, I'm not American.
Debate Round No. 1


Great way to end your argument "I'm not American," Well if you're not American then how can you possibly have an accurate idea of the pros and cons of illegal immigration. With that being said,let's proceed to address your argument:

*Let me begin by defining GDP (You do not seem to have a clear understanding of the concept):

The value of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given year divided by the average (or mid-year) population for the same year.

First of all the GDP is an inaccurate measure of a country's economy. By using the total "Documented" population of the United States, the GDP is inaccurate. However claims that Illegal immigration lower the country's GDP are not right. If you know anything about math you know that if you increase the numerator by a greater factor than the denumerator, you will get a higher GDP in this case. Illegal immigration helps the country's GDP in 3 ways:

1. Cheap labor helps reduce the costs of products in the U.S.

2. Immigrants as consumers help the market.

3.Immigrants contribute to the tax system, money which will they never have the chance to collect. For example, California has received up to 52 Billion dollars in taxes from "Undocumented Individuals". Money which can be used to build better schools, highways, etc. All of which in terms lead to more jobs and growth of the economy.


I shall like to state that all claims made of any data, including California's GDP shall be considered false unless cited/sourced.

Firstly, the number of illegal immigrants increases the denominator (Non-American term referring to 'denumerator') because the denominator is the population. If you increase the denominator it reduces GDP making your point redundant.

You make the brash statement "GDP is an inaccurate measure of a country's economy." without any sourced evidence to prove this or support it your claim can be considered false since you never offered an alternative manner to measure an economy.

I have torn your debate apart, and shall do so more if you so wish.
Debate Round No. 2


StereotypicalMexican forfeited this round.


i've put this immigrant into an extremely submisive position ;)
Debate Round No. 3


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Debate Round No. 5
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