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Our_Boat_is_Right
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jackgilbert
Con (against)

Im Pro-Gun: Change my Mind

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/2/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 weeks ago Status: Debating Period
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Our_Boat_is_Right

Pro

Just to clarify, I support all guns and concealed carry. Change my Mind.
jackgilbert

Con

Since 1791, the United States has had the second amendment which is a law that allows US citizens to carry guns. As a result, within the past six years, there have been over 1600 shootings in the US resulting in thousands of lost lives. Because of this I am for the resolution, The United States should abolish the Second Amendment.

Observation 1: Definitions

Abolish: To formally put an end to.
Source: Dictionary.com

Second Amendment: An amendment to the US constitution, guaranteeing the right to bear and keep arms.

Observation 2: harms

Harm 1: The Second Amendment has resulted in a dramatic increase in crime rates
Support: The Second Amendment has guaranteed the right to carry guns. However, some states decided that guns are not allowed. All of the other states that did allow guns between the years 1977-2010 had a 2% increase in murder rates and at least a 9% increase in rates of rape, aggravated assault, robbery, auto theft, burglary, and larceny. This shows that guns not only have an effect on murder rates but also other serious crimes as well. If we abolished the second amendment, all states would have a dramatic decrease in crime.
Source: National Bureau of Economic Research

Harm 2: Guns have resulted in many tragic accidents over the years
Support: Of the 32,000 gun deaths in America in 2011, 591 were due to accidental discharge, and an additional 248 were due to undetermined intent. That makes it where 2.59% of all gun deaths are by accident. Since then, the numbers haven't changed much. In 2017, 1300 children were killed by either an accident or a murder with guns. What does this tell us? Even if your intentions right, even if you just have a gun for self-defense, there is always a huge possibility that you will misfire.
Source: Quora.com

Harm 3: Guns are rarely used in self-defense
Many people use self-defense as a primary reason to hold guns. But a study has shown that only 0.79% of people actually use their gun as a means of protection or a threat. Defense is the primary reason people carry guns. But there is absolutely no use if we aren't actually using the gun.
Source: Inter Consortium of Political and Social Research

Observation 3: Plan

Mandates: The US passes a law against concealed carry. Now obviously, there are going to be some people that refuse to give up their gun. For this reason, we need to make a threat. The government would pass a law saying that they have a right under reasonable suspicion to go through your house at any moment and search it. If they find a gun, you are sentenced to 6 months of federal prison or a fine of $250,000. This way, the number of people who turn in their guns will skyrocket dramatically.
Agency: The government
Funding: By Normal Means
Enforcement: Supreme Court

Observation 3: Advantages
Advantage 1: Crime rates would decrease
Support: Taking away the things that increase crime will decrease crime. Because the states that did not have guns legal had a decrease in crime, it only makes sense that banning guns would make it nationwide.
Source: National Bureau of Economic Research

Advantage 2: The rate of tragic accidents will decline. You cannot accidentally stab someone or punch someone. You can however accidentally shoot someone and it has happened.
In 2016 there were 161,374 deaths from unintentional injuries, the overall 3rd ranking cause of death that year.
From 2006-2016, almost 6,885 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings. In 2016 alone, there were 495 incidents of accidental firearm deaths.
Accidental gun deaths occur mainly in those under 25 years old. In 2014, 2,549 children (age 0-19) died by gunshot and an additional 13,576 were injured.
Source: www.aftermath.com

Advantage 3: Self defense will be left to well-trained officers, not inexperienced citizens.
Just because citizens rarely use guns, doesn't mean the police won't. They take their job, as not only the right but the privilege to protect the citizens of the US. They are the ones we can trust, and they are the only ones that we can know will come to the rescue every time.

Conclusion: The US should make concealed carry illegal. It not only has an effect on crime but many other serious things as well.
Debate Round No. 1
Our_Boat_is_Right

Pro

Harm 1: As concealed carry goes up, the more murder and violent crime goes down. There has been almost a 50% decrease in violent crime in the past 25 years(http://www.gunfacts.info...). These are FBI stats, which are much more reliable than your source.

Harm 2: Guns save much more lives than take take them. This may be a surprise to some people, but guns save more lives than take them. There are over 2 million defensive gun uses annually, which is more than offensive gun uses.[2] On average, around 12,000 gun-related homicides occur every year. As stated by a Kleck-Gertz study, 15.7% of people who were involved in a DGU (Defensive Gun Use) said they almost certainly saved theirs or someone else"s life. In addition to that, another 14.6% said they probably saved a life. Since I want to be conservative with my numbers, let"s say that everyone who said they probably saved a life are wrong. According to an unpublished CDC study, there are 2.5 million DGUs per year.[8] Since they surveyed 222 participants, the margin of error with a 95% confidence level calculated to be plus or minus 4.8%. This signifies that at bare minimum 270,000 lives are saved by guns, up to over 500,000 just counting the "almost certainly people." If all the "probably" people are right, then that number goes beyond 800,000 thousand. Moreover, for every firearm homicide, at least 20-70 lives are saved by guns. If all gun deaths are counted, then 8-23 lives are saved per death.[5]
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