The Instigator
Clockwork_Assassin
Pro (for)
Losing
28 Points
The Contender
Atheism
Con (against)
Winning
33 Points

I'm sexier than you are.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/18/2011 Category: Society
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Clockwork_Assassin

Pro

I'm sexy. I know it, and soon all people will know this as well.
Just introduce yourself.
Atheism

Con

The resolution is negated by the simple fact that sexiness is subjective.
Ergo, it is impossible for my opponent to objectively verify his proposal that he is sexier than I am. Furthermore, he knows nothing about my looks or defining traits. I could look exactly like him, thus negating the resolution, as he would not be sexier than me.
Resolution negated, vote Con.
Debate Round No. 1
Clockwork_Assassin

Pro


My opponent says that being sexy is subjective. Does he know that people are going to judge this debate off of their own opinion.

subjective:
based on somebody's opinions or feelings rather than on facts or evidence
encarta dictionary

I believe that my opponent is trying to avoid showing his face on his profile picture. For he is not sexier than me.

sexy:
arousing or intended to arouse sexual desire

By my profile picture, one can tell that I intend to sexually arouse anyone that looks at.
Me, in Cancun, Mexico, wearing shorts, and a black wife-beater top posing.

If my opponent cannot post a better picture, I have to say that he is avoiding my request to be judged by the voters.

So take that picture of Ren and Stimpy off of your profile... and put your picture up there.

Atheism

Con

//My opponent says that being sexy is subjective. Does he know that people are going to judge this debate off of their own opinion.//

Of course. That has nothing to do with you being objectively sexier than me, or anyone, for that matter, as your resolution implies.

//I believe that my opponent is trying to avoid showing his face on his profile picture. For he is not sexier than me.//

Prove it. Beliefs don't mean squat until you can back them up.

//By my profile picture, one can tell that I intend to sexually arouse anyone that looks at.
Me, in Cancun, Mexico, wearing shorts, and a black wife-beater top posing.//

Okay. You are trying to be sexy. Whether you succeed in that matter is up to the viewer.

//If my opponent cannot post a better picture, I have to say that he is avoiding my request to be judged by the voters.//

You can't try to create rules that were not stated in the first round now. You never asked for the contender to post a picture, argument, etc. Trying to imply that you did say so when you in fact did not is a blatant attempt at misdirection.
I call for the conduct point to be handed to me.

//So take that picture of Ren and Stimpy off of your profile... and put your picture up there.//

No. You never gave directions to do so in Round 1. You should've said so prior to anyone accepting the debate. Your loss.

My opponent has thus far tried to lead the readers into believing that he posted rules that I ignored, which is an attempt to cost me the conduct point. However, he never made such rules, and is creating them as we go along, and pretending he had them there for the entirety of the debate thus far. Such dishonorable actions should urge the voters to give me the conduct point, at least.

Furthermore, my opponent has still not offered one piece of evidence that he is sexier than I, thus failing to meet his burden of proof, and giving me the auto-win.

Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 2
Clockwork_Assassin

Pro


According to the definition of sexy, the readers are supposed to decide who is sexier.
My opponent has failed to prove that he is sexier than I' am. Therefore, he is forfeiting this debate without even attempting to challenge my statement.

I, have put out my evidence of how sexy I can be with my picture on my profile.

****Proof. You have to prove to the readers that you are sexier than me.
By taking on this debate, you basically take on a contract to prove to people that you are sexier than me.

Look at the topic statement... "I'm sexier than you are."
My opponent has failed to prove this by not showing proof with a picture.

Are the readers expected to JUST assume you are sexier than me without proof.

My opponent is trying to talk his way out of proving a point without showing actual proof.

**********Just like you said in your first argument... you could look exactly like me... well do you. You are not showing any proof. Next time be thoroughly prepared before taking on a debate.
Atheism

Con

My opponent apparently did not read any of my last round.
In his resolution, he states that he is sexier than his contender. HE needs to prove this statement. All I need to do is negate said statement. If he can't prove it, I automatically win. If he wanted his contender to post an image, he should've posted rules, or a set format in the first round.
My opponent does not seem to know what a burden of proof is either, as he has failed to prove he is sexier than me. Saying that I should put a picture up AFTER the fact that I accepted the challenge is tantamount to cheating and creating false rules for the debate.
I urge a Con vote. At the very least, should you not be able to see who has given the better arguments, give me the conduct point for my opponent making up rules in Round 2 and onward.

I reiterate, vote Con.
Debate Round No. 3
Clockwork_Assassin

Pro

My opponent says that he can look better than me but he avoids portraying himself so. My guess is that my opponent is not sexier than me and has proven so by not revealing himself.

My opponent is saying that since I did not mention him showing himself that I am cheating. It is in fact the exact opposite. I did not mention any rules because anything goes.

My opponent thought it would be so easy to just take on this debate and prove me wrong just by saying that he does not have to show his face. In fact, this should hurt you more for you do not bring anything to the table yourself. You are instead hiding behind the monitor in your fourteen year old face covered in acne for you have not fully matured. You probably look like stick and your voice probably sounds like a baby for your take on sports is ewwy sports.

No experienced man can ever be outsexied by a fourteen year old minor.
I have money, sex appeal and irresistable to the same and opposite sex.

I also have maturity on my side.
Men with maturity has been proven to be more sexually attractive than those that are not mature.

http://www.tuzv.com...
www.girlsaskguys.com › Behavior Questions - Cached - Similar

maturity:
–noun
1. the state of being mature; ripeness: The fruit will reach maturity in a few days.
2. full development; perfected condition: maturity of judgment; to bring a plan to maturity.
Atheism

Con

Sigh. Again, my opponent seems to not understand my rebuttals.

Let's start by addressing his main argument, and compose it into a syllogism. It goes as follows:

P1:Opponent has not given picture of himself despite constant urging.
P2:To not do so would prove that my opponent is incredibly ugly.
C:Opponent is incredibly ugly.

As you can see, this is not sound reasoning at all. To assume that someone is grotesque just because they refuse to put up an image of themselves does not mean they are ugly whatsoever. Being camera shy, unable to get a camera, or just plan unwilling to put a picture up all play a factor into this. As such, the second Premise is unfounded, and illogical.

//My opponent is saying that since I did not mention him showing himself that I am cheating. It is in fact the exact opposite. I did not mention any rules because anything goes.//

//If anything goes, then I should not be required to post an image of myself.
My opponent thought it would be so easy to just take on this debate and prove me wrong just by saying that he does not have to show his face. In fact, this should hurt you more for you do not bring anything to the table yourself. You are instead hiding behind the monitor in your fourteen year old face covered in acne for you have not fully matured. You probably look like stick and your voice probably sounds like a baby for your take on sports is ewwy sports.//

Nothing but ad hominems here, let's award me the conduct point and move on, gents.

//No experienced man can ever be outsexied by a fourteen year old minor.
I have money, sex appeal and irresistable to the same and opposite sex.//

And yet here we are.

//I also have maturity on my side.
Men with maturity has been proven to be more sexually attractive than those that are not mature.//

Please note that my opponent source does not cite statistics or anything. It has a bunch of people sharing their opinions, and most of them favor young men, ergo pointing to a dislike of maturity.

tl;dr, my opponent's reasoning is bad, and he should feel bad.

Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by askbob 6 years ago
askbob
His "fathers" account still is active

http://www.debate.org...

He logged in two hours ago
Posted by Atheism 6 years ago
Atheism
I like how I was vote-bombed by him and his father's account.
Whoopie.
Posted by gavin.ogden 6 years ago
gavin.ogden
You vote bomb yourself, and you earn a conduct vote for the con, from me.
Posted by BlackVoid 6 years ago
BlackVoid
I just vote pro because I feel con didn't engage in the spirit of the debate. I understand sexiness is subjective and everything, but just arguing that is contrary to what this had the potential to be; a funny and cool debate about sexiness where 2 people point out each other's faults. I've never understood contenders accepting debates that are obviously supposed to be humorous and light-hearted, but then give dead-serious and technical arguments.
Posted by vardas0antras 6 years ago
vardas0antras
In fact Grape is a wise man
Posted by vardas0antras 6 years ago
vardas0antras
"Try being female, younger, and naked, in that order of priority, if you want to win on the grounds that the audience will prefer you. :P" Words of wisdom
Posted by Grape 6 years ago
Grape
RFD:

Conduct - Tied.
S&G - Con. Pro had numerous errors, including random commas.
Arguments - Con. I did not feel at all aroused by Pro's profile or by Ren & Stimpy. Pro failed to uphold what he was trying to prove.
Sources - Con. Pro fabricated information, and I will consider the profile pictures as evidence that worked against him.

Try being female, younger, and naked, in that order of priority, if you want to win on the grounds that the audience will prefer you. :P
Posted by Clockwork_Assassin 6 years ago
Clockwork_Assassin
Look at Athiesm. Trying to make arguments after the debate.
Posted by Atheism 6 years ago
Atheism
Having better grammar is nonnegotiable, and I did feel I did have the better conduct, as Con tried to make up rules.
I didn't give myself better arguments.

Tbh, I don't care of respect.
Posted by Sky_ace25 6 years ago
Sky_ace25
guts*
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