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In Vitro Fertilization

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Started: 4/24/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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mariab9711

Pro

There are a lot of basic benefits of IVF. There's a good amount of people that are unable to conceive a child, and IVF will allow them to do so. Not only does IVF allow couples to have a child, but single women and same sex couples as well. IVF will also provide them with a sperm donor if needed. If a parent or a woman's IVF cycle is unsuccessful, the embryos from other people may be donated and be used to enable the embryo recipients to have a child.
People undergo IVF for several reasons; some women have unexplained infertility, and are unable to get pregnant despite testing normal on their fertility test. Some men have an impaired sperm production or function; the males sperm movement might be too slow or the sperm size might be atypical, which can make the sperm hard to fertilize the egg.
katara1760

Con

People that are considered normal, in this sense that means an average pay grade, then IVF isn't a viable option for them because the "exact total of a single IVF cycle varies, but may cost more than $12,000 - $17,000" (http://www.nlm.nih.gov...) which is a lot of money for something that only works
"41 - 43% for women under age 35
"33 - 36% for women age 35 - 37
"23 - 27% for women ages 38 - 40
"13 - 18% for women age 41 and over (http://www.nlm.nih.gov...). This is a costly procedure that doesn't even work 50% of the time. Not to mention the birth defects that the child could be born with that the parents of a "normal" child also more than likely won't be able to fix due to monetary problems.
Debate Round No. 1
mariab9711

Pro

There are a lot of basic benefits of IVF. There's a good amount of people that are unable to conceive a child, and IVF will allow them to do so. Not only does IVF allow couples to have a child, but single women and same sex couples as well. IVF will also provide them with a sperm donor if needed. If a parent or a woman's IVF cycle is unsuccessful, the embryos from other people may be donated and be used to enable the embryo recipients to have a child. ("The Advantages and Disadvantages of IVF - CREATE Fertility." CREATE Fertility. N.p., 19 Dec. 2014. Web. 25 Apr. 2015.)
People undergo IVF for several reasons; some women have unexplained infertility, and are unable to get pregnant despite testing normal on their fertility test. Some men have an impaired sperm production or function; the males sperm movement might be too slow or the sperm size might be atypical, which can make the sperm hard to fertilize the egg.
katara1760

Con

IVF uses all of the latest technology to be able to synthetically create children. This could lead to genetic screening, or the ability to pick and choose which genetics and factors a couple wants for their child but aren't you supposed to love your child no matter what? Not to mention that a child that is born of IVF can be ridiculed by others since they weren't conceived naturally and there have been multiple studies that suggest that this can lead to depression and other mental disorders. Why should a person synthetically create a child that is born to their specifications like a robot, and then be ridiculed for something that they aren't in control of?
Debate Round No. 2
mariab9711

Pro

Note: THIS ARGUMENT BOX IS FOR ROUND 2 AND ROUND 3

ROUND 2

The prospect of conceiving a child using their own eggs is higher for younger women, 40% in their late 20's, 30% in their late 30's etc.
The IVF procedure is a basic process:
1.) The doctor will monitor the amount of eggs produced by inhibiting the secretion of FSH, LH, Estrogen, and progesterone,
2.) accumulate the eggs
3.) accumulate the sperm
4.) wash the eggs out of the follicle using a micropipette, and combine the eggs with the sperm in a sterile condition in a shallow dish, and incubated at 37 degrees until the next day.
5.) place the eggs inside the uterus. (Reference, WebMD Medical. "In VItro Fertilization (IVF) Facts, Success Rates, Multiple Births, What to Expect." WebMD. WebMD, n.d. Web. 25 Apr. 2015. )

ROUND 3

Genetic screening of embryos are beneficial; it allows couples to detect any possible disease the embryo might have and avoid that problem. It's not a harmful procedure, and the woman can undergo blood and ultrasound test to determine the low or high risks. Chromosomal disorders like trisomy 21 or down syndrome in children are increasing everyday, and having a genetic screening of embryos at their disposal is advantageous. ( "Health Matters Blog." Brattleboro Memorial Hospital. N.p., n.d. Web. 25 Apr. 2015. ) If a disease or disorder in the embryo is apparent, the couples have the choice to either proceed with the implantation, or utilize another embryo without the genetic disease.
katara1760

Con

If it's not a problem that the embryos are being created by genetic screening, then it should be that over "an estimated 500,000 embryos in cryopreservation awaiting final disposition. This might include future transfer (either to the mother or to another person seeking pregnancy through "embryo adoption"), scientific research, or destruction." (
http://www.aleteia.org...). That's a lot of unused embryos that are being left untreated, unused, and a lot of potential children that are going to be destroyed more than likely because a person would rather choose what child they get. That doesn't sound like something that's very ethically or finically safe considering how much the couple is spending to become artificially pregnant. Not to mention that " the euphemism means your doctor selects one or more healthy developing fetuses for destruction, leaving the remaining fetuses to develop (hopefully) to full term."
(http://www.aleteia.org...). Why should the doctor allow what should live and what shouldn't? Isn't the point of IVF to have a child of your choice because you are so desperate to have one? Why do you need a doctor to get rid of fetuses that are potentially "bad" if you aren't allowed to see or choose for yourself?
Debate Round No. 3
mariab9711

Pro

Not all unused embryos are destroyed/ thrown away. If a woman truly wants to keep the baby, she can pay $40 ad infinitum a month to keep the embryos frozen in a lab. (http://www.parenting.com...) A myriad of embryos are being stored in fertility clinics, so the embryos arent completely destroyed once the woman concevies a child. Couples usually have at least 5 years to keep the embryo frozen in a lab, and must decide the embryos fate after 5 years. (https://www.legalzoom.com...)
Couples can donate their embryos to other infertile couples, or to stem cell research. When couples are content with their family, and dont feel right throwing away their embryo, they are allowed to to donate it to other infertile couples and give them a chance at birth. Although giving up your embryo is difficult, Bohn, an embryo donor states that "she has no regrets, and today, no sadness". (http://www.parenting.com...)
Couples can also donate to embryonic stem cell research to help doctors understand the growth of diseases and understand their development thus attempting to find cures for diseases like the parkinsons disease, cancer etc. (http://usliberals.about.com...)
katara1760

Con

With the issue of multiple births, it arises from the fact that "multiple embryos are created and transferred into the woman, more of them successfully implant than is safe or desired" and that the ' IVF process requires the mother (or the woman donating the eggs) to undergo a process of hormonal stimulation to produce multiple eggs for fertilization. There are associated risks such as ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome and complications from the egg retrieval procedure. Also, because of the higher likelihood of multiple births, using IVF means higher rates of pregnancy complications too." (
http://www.aleteia.org...). Because IVF requires that multiple eggs are implanted into the woman, in the theory that only one of them should take, it causes the problem that more than one takes at a time creating twins and triplets. Even though pregnancy complications and birth defects are a theoretical problem in every birth, because of the many eggs implanted, there is a much higher risk of harm to the mother or child that can lead to recless disregard for human life in the theory of science. Women are purposefully putting themselves in danger and their unborn child, in an effort to have a child that is more likely to have birth defects than a child concieved normally.
Debate Round No. 4
mariab9711

Pro

There is approximately 1 in 4 IVF pregnancies that results in multiple births, and twins/ triplets have a higher risk of premature and miscarriage. Twin to twin transfusion syndrome can cause deaths and other health problems due to the sharing of a placenta. If this becomes a major threat to the mother or the twins, the mother can undergo a "fetal reduction", which requires the abortion of one fetus. (http://www.oneatatime.org.uk...)
The general procedure that IVF clinics follow:
Women will develop multiple follicles in the ovaries by injecting them with medications. The doctor will monitor the follicles for 1-3 days after the blood and ultrasound testing, and are needed to have at least 3 follicles to develop. Once the follices have matured, the IVF clinics will then remove the eggs from the follicles. The sperm and eggs are fertilized in the lab, then the embryo is propagated in the lab for 2-6 days before transporting it into the womans uterus.
(http://www.advancedfertility.com...)
In Vitro Fertilization is a very beneficial procedure for women/ couples who are unable to conceive a child due to health related problems. Once the inception of pregnancy have begun, and the couples no longer wish to have any more children, they are able to donate their embryos to other infertile couples and help them start their own family, or donate it to stem cell research, utilizing it to understand the growth of diseases and finding cures for diseases such as cancer and parkinsons disease. There are definitely ethical controveries that come into play, but that's completely objective. Understanding the positive impact IVF's offer and the joy it conveys shouldn't be disregarded, and this reproductive technology should be offered to any woman or couples who are unable to produce a child.
katara1760

Con

When a couple are deciding to have a child by IVF, they are taking responsibility for the eggs and embryos that are produced along with treatement. If a couple should split for some reason, there is usually a giant legal battle that ensues over who gets to keep the eggs and embryos since, scientifically speaking, both parents have a claim on them. The courts won't settle it because it's considered a 'civil issue' that must be worked out between the parents. It's gotten so crazy that scientists in the UK are creating a new system of IVF called three way parenthood to "prevent defective mtDNA from being passed from mother to child, scientists in the U.K. are planning to offer a "three parent" fertility procedure." (http://www.the-scientist.com...). This is supposed to help stop certain genetic diseases from being contracted from parent to baby and still raises the question of who owns what after the baby is born. Because of the inability for middle class parents to be ableto have the expensive procedure of IVF, becasue of the fact that now parents can pick the genes they want to create their 'perfect child' and because there are so many medical risks that come with trying IVF, IVF shouldn't be allowed to be continuing as a practice because it causes more harm than good to both the parents and the unborn child.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by mariab9711 1 year ago
mariab9711
hey jamie, i know my round 2 response is the same as my first one, but just type in your response and ill type my round 2 and 3 response on the third round and ill just explain it to ms mekhail. I dont know how to edit my response.
Posted by mariab9711 1 year ago
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