In a no holds barred death match, the time agreed upon by both heroes, Batman beats superman
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1. His only known weakness is the trauma he experienced at his parents death, which he overcame almost easily when Savage used Bane to implement it in Justice League: Doom.
2. Batman knows both superman's physical weakness as well as his emotional one. (If it wasn't clear I'm referring to Kryptonite and Lois Lane)
3. Batman has the superior intellect, not just the science and technology, I'm referring to his superior reflexes and strategic approach to battles, where as superman simply blunders into every situation trusting his powers to get him out of any trouble (admittedly most of the times they do, but it isn't the kind of stuff you pull when facing the Batman)
4. He has a near infinite amount of resources which he can use to either create armour against superman, or weapons to use against him.
Batman is limited, especially in his basic form with basic equipment. He would lose most fights if they were random encounters. Heck, even in his own comics, he does lose in random encounters quite often. It is not uncommon for him to lose a fight, retreat, regroup, prepare, and come back to win. This can be seen in his fights against Bane, Bronze Tiger, and the Owls.
When we look at Batman and Ironman, they are clearly counterparts. Are they equal in their basic equipment? No. But they are counterparts in their personalities. Billionaires, Playboys (well Bruce fakes this part), Philanthropists, Geniuses, Art Collectors, and both are mutant-phobic (Look at Civil War/Thor-buster/Hulk-buster and Brother MK I/OMACs)
Random encounter, basic equipment, Ironman easily wins without pause.
Rishabh31198 forfeited this round.
Okey the only thing I am able to do is to further explain my confidence in Batman, so to quote on several aspects:
1. I'd like to emphasise Batman's sense of honour and ability to never stay down.. Specifically I am referring to return of the Dark Knight part one, where using the Batmobile, he incapacitates most of the Mutant army, but when he is confronting the mutant leader he exits the batmobile to face him head on.. Granted he got his but whooped, but after a retreat he again faced him and utterly destroyed him in front of the mutant army, which simultaneously created a huge following for him, calling themselves the sons of batman.
2. Another point I'd like to make is Batman's willingness to do whatever it takes to get his job done. It has been argued that Batman will never completely win a battle because of his unwillingness to kill... Yet in the Return of the Dark Knight Part 2 he finally kills the Joker when he realises the Joker has run too rampant for too long.. Another example is in the crossover movie apocalypse, while superman is sub-doing his cousin Cara Zurell who was at that time under the control of DarkSeid, Batman activated all the Hellspores on Apocalypse threatening to set them off unless Darkseid releases Cara and promises never to pursue her again.
Rishabh31198 forfeited this round.
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Vote Placed by imabench 2 years ago
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