The Instigator
FedericoW
Con (against)
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vmpire321
Pro (for)
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In the United States, current income disparities threaten democratic ideals.

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vmpire321
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/10/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,073 times Debate No: 19793
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FedericoW

Con

RESOLUTION: In the United States, current income disparities threaten democratic ideals.

I might not be really good with this topic so if I did something wrong please point it out when we are FINISHED with this debate. By the way this is a round of acceptance.

Thank You!!! :) *?* ^!^ 0__0
vmpire321

Pro

:D I accept and I look forward to this debate.

==DEFINITIONS==

As the PRO side of this debate, I have the right to define this resolution.
I define...

1) Income Disparities as "differences in the amount of money people earn through employment"

2) Threaten as "to be a menace or source of danger to"

3) Democratic Ideals as "our current beliefs as a democratic state"
Debate Round No. 1
FedericoW

Con

FedericoW forfeited this round.
vmpire321

Pro

Hmm.

==Arguments==

1) Influence
-- Everyone has heard of this before. "Money talks" Guess where else money talks? Within our political system. Although the US's foundation includes equality and equal voices among the people, that is simply no longer truthful. The rich and the poor simply no longer have equal voices. The rich, often with plenty of money to spare, canafford to campaign. They can afford air time, advertisements, attack ads, and they can afford to skip work. Nowadays air times can cost sometimes up to or over $468,000 for just 30 seconds of airtime on some popular T.V. channels. Now I ask you this. Who gets their opinions heard? A group of wealthy people paying for advertisements or a group of poor people struggling to survive? The answer is clear here. One group of people have a bigger voice than another. This is a clear violation of our democratic ideals of fairness and equality.

2) Education--

1) People who are educated to college level have a much higher chance of voting.
2) Poverty hinders and affects a person's education.
3) Therefore, those living in poverty are less likely to vote.
This simply furthers my point on fairness. Are these elections fair? Poor and struggling people often don't vote. Consider this. It is perfectly fine for a rich person to ask if they can leave work and go vote, since they can afford the slight loss in income and their bosses often don't care (if they have any lol) However, it is far less likely that someone who is desperate and falling into poverty will go vote, because they need the money and it is probable that they are working labor and that their boss is a lot less accepting.

3)Mental Health--
A study by the APA has shown that there is a correlation between a person's socioeconomic status and a person's risk for mental disability and psychiatric hospitalization. Furthermore, this was true no matter what kind of economic hardship the person went through.
http://mentalhealth.about.com......;

4)Unfair Tax Cuts-- The Rich are recieving unfair tax breaks, and in turn, the middle class and the poor class are paying more to make up. Is this fair? Step back and ask yourself, is the government treating everyone equally? This is another violation of democratic ideals. Our country was founded upon the principles of equality and fairness.
http://www.aflcio.org......
http://www.faireconomy.org......;


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That's everything for now.
Debate Round No. 2
FedericoW

Con

FedericoW forfeited this round.
vmpire321

Pro

Apparently, CON has gone inactive.

--Extend Arguments--
Debate Round No. 3
FedericoW

Con

FedericoW forfeited this round.
vmpire321

Pro

Hmm. Extend arguments.

And Vote for Me.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by FedericoW 4 years ago
FedericoW
lets continue but i might not go well
Posted by vmpire321 4 years ago
vmpire321
Hmm. What about this debate then? We can't really "cancel" a debate...
Posted by FedericoW 4 years ago
FedericoW
if you don't mind, can you join if i make another debate during the fist or second day of winter break because there is a bunch of HW right now(BTW your pretty good in your other debates by the looks of it) :D
Posted by vmpire321 4 years ago
vmpire321
Hmm. On this debate order... it goes

*Person who started debate
*Person who accepted Debate
*Person who started debate
*person who accepted debate
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Posted by FedericoW 4 years ago
FedericoW
i thought pro was supposed to go first?
Posted by vmpire321 4 years ago
vmpire321
xD
Posted by FedericoW 4 years ago
FedericoW
i forgot/didn't have time
Posted by 16kadams 4 years ago
16kadams
lol
Posted by vmpire321 4 years ago
vmpire321
D:! I don't want to debate that >.<!
Posted by 16kadams 4 years ago
16kadams
I will debate you on that, the foundind fathers agree with me:

"sir what have you given us" -some chick
"A republic mam, if you can keep it" Benjamin franklin.
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Vote Placed by PeacefulChaos 4 years ago
PeacefulChaos
FedericoWvmpire321Tied
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Reasons for voting decision: Con FF everything, lol. Obvious win.