The Instigator
livi
Pro (for)
Losing
6 Points
The Contender
leethal
Con (against)
Winning
27 Points

In this debate, I will lose.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/27/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,480 times Debate No: 3825
Debate Rounds (3)
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livi

Pro

Dear opponent, and all the people watching this debate.As you could tell, my opponent is an amazing debator. He's got an average of 81.25% in winning, while i have none.Repete will continue and become the best while i rot in a trashcan.
opponent has different positions in the government and the society compared to me, which is because his mind is much more superior that an 11- year old's brain like me.
leethal

Con

I negate the debate topic on the grounds that no one can know or prove for certain who will win or lose this debate. I will begin by responding to my opponents claims as to why she thinks it is certain or even provable who will be victorious in this debate.

"As you could tell, my opponent is an amazing debator. He's got an average of 81.25% in winning, while i have none."

This is presumptuous and incorrect. I am not an amazing debater, or even a good one for that matter. While my win ratio is of the order of 80%, I tend to take on debates posed by others, rather than start my own. This gives me an advantage over a lot of other debaters who start a majority of their debates. And it's true that my opponent currently has a 0% win ratio, but that is 1 loss from 1 debate, which is not representative of either a good or a bad debater. My opponent and I have both lost 1 debate, and in fact the debate I lost was similar to this one in context.

"opponent has different positions in the government and the society compared to me, which is because his mind is much more superior that an 11- year old's brain like me."

My opponent and myself may or may not have varying positions in society, but this has absolutely nothing to do with this debate.

Now that I have responded to my opponent's arguments, I will pose my own - It is up to my opponent to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that she will lose this debate. I propose that this is impossible to prove. I will provide a few possibilities for how I could lose this debate. If even one of these proposals is possible, my opponent should lose the debate.

1. My opponent could start numerous accounts for debate.org, and vote against me with each one. This would more likely than not result in my losing the debate.

2. My opponent may have many friends on this site who will vote for her without so much as reading the debate.

3. The voters of this site may find my opponent's arguments to be more well-rounded and to provide more evidence than my own. This would surely result in my defeat.

I will leave it here for now, but my point is clear. It is impossible to prove this resolution, and at best my opponent has made a guess. I have shown a number of ways I could lose this debate, all of which are possible if not probable.
Debate Round No. 1
livi

Pro

livi forfeited this round.
leethal

Con

Although my opponent's 2nd round was further evidence to support her hypothesis that she would lose this debate, my point still stands. My opponent must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that she will lose this debate. She has so far failed to do so. Vote CON.
Debate Round No. 2
livi

Pro

livi forfeited this round.
leethal

Con

Although my opponent's 2nd and 3rd rounds were further evidence to support her hypothesis that she would lose this debate, my point still stands. My opponent must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that she will lose this debate. She has so far failed to do so. Vote CON.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by flor 9 years ago
flor
because he wants to win.

he lost the debate.
by not having any arguments..
therefore proving the reso true.

pro wins
Posted by HellKat 9 years ago
HellKat
Why can't this kid seem to get past the first round of a debate. They've only done two.
Posted by left_wing_mormon 9 years ago
left_wing_mormon
right...so both people here "won". Just one of the two will get a point added to their stats and the other gets a smile knowing that people on this site are willingly to waste their time on stupid debates like these.

Well, as I said these topics should be left ignored.
Posted by Kleptin 9 years ago
Kleptin
Not necessarily. There's no contradiction or paradox here. As Con stated, voting for Con and generating a loss for Pro may prove Pro's position, but that doesn't mean Pro did a better job at arguing his position.

THAT is what this debate is supposed to be graded on, regardless of whether or not his position turns out to be false, Pro just did a worse job presenting his argument.
Posted by left_wing_mormon 9 years ago
left_wing_mormon
I think when these sort of debates pop up we should ignore them and not vote. First of all by voting Con, you are giving in to the Pro side. The one who starts this debate is just a waste of time and should not be given the attention. Secondly, STOP ACCEPTING THESE DEBATES! I mean really, are we really going to take this seriously?
Posted by Kleptin 9 years ago
Kleptin
Con is absolutely right. Pro's forfeiting the latter rounds is no grounds to declare Pro the winner. The goal of the debate is to vote on who provided the best argument, not on who is right or wrong.

Furthermore, rigged debates are stupid. This one wasn't even original. It's been done dozens of times and I am sick of seeing it.

::click Con::
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