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Incest with contraception should be allowed, as long as you abort if pregnant.

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Started: 10/20/2012 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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I accept! Dude think of it like this, you're bangin your sister........ awkward!
Now state of California says your 3rd cousin is fine and Alabama says 2nd... or somethin like that. But siblings aunts uncles and first cousins... it'd be weird dude! Wierd!
Debate Round No. 1


Yes but if we banned weirdos, people like einstein would never succeed. Weirdness is not sufficient grounds to render something illegal.


Okay I agree weirdness isn't ground for illegality but...
In Alabama
Dominoes may not be played on Sunday.
It is illegal to wear a fake mustache that causes laughter in church.
In California
Animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship.
It is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale.
Women may not drive in a house coat.
It is illegal for a liquor store to sell cold soft drinks.
Liquor stores may not sell milk.
And New York
It is against the law to throw a ball at someone's head for fun.
A license must be purchased before hanging clothes on a clothesline.
The penalty for jumping off a building is death.

So we can't make it illegal because it's wierd but we can make normal things wierdly illegal?
And honestly the whole reason it's illegal is co there won't be inbred families, not all contraception is 100% effective. Exceptions:Not having sex, removal of testicles, Destruction of overies, and female aging.
Debate Round No. 2


The fact that 'normal' things have been made illegal is totally and utterly irrelevant to this debate. You have not explained why they are valid laws, if anything I could say the ridiculousness of them explains exactly why stupid laws and illogical laws should not be made, although I see the logic behind the New York ball throwing one, especially if the ball is a relatively hard material.

As for your last paragraph, Inbred families are indeed an issue when we realise variation is essential to evolution. this is why I stated, in the resolution itself, that it should be allowed as long as you abort if pregnant. Abort meaning the act of abortion, in case you understood some other meaning in context.

Thanks for not taking a religious standpoint though, that is indeed most irritating in policy/philosophy debates where God is not actually a necessary part of it. I do appreciate that.


Aethist so don't worry about the God stuff.

The whole reason incest is illegal is that it's a social taboo. It's been stigmatized for centuries, since the fall of the Roman empire. What you're refering would require the entire world to except it as a casual thing. It'd be like trying to convet the US to metric.
Debate Round No. 3


You essentially have two contentions (I am writing them in a format that allows me to attack them because your format is very vague, this isn't to offend you):
  1. Convincing people to vote in the law is a huge challenge and virtually unfeasible, in your opinion.
  2. Current society sees it as disgusting and immoral and this is sufficient grounds to keep it illegal
I shall attack both at once in a very simple manner.

The resolution was not about whether or not Incest should be attempted to be made legal, nor whether it would. It was about whether or not it should be allowed, we are purely discussing incest's ethics, not discussing the feasibility of convincing people of it, ignorance is always there. Homosexuality was once seen as a mental illness, yes it was literally regarded as severe as schizophrenia and sociopathy. If you were caught you were sent to an asylum where they would give you 'medication (it turned out to just be sleeping pills) that would allow you to rest and 'mull over' the true nature of your heterosexuality. This was meant to 'cure' you of what was actually SCIENTIFICALLY seen as an illness at the time. This is to show you how stigma and social convention is a ridiculous manner in which to analyse the ethics or correctness of allowing something.

You failed to counter my contention that allowing people to have sex, if we abort in case of impregnation, is very okay as this doesn't have the issue of their DNA being too alike to create sufficient variation in species. I think that if you truly love your cousin or even sibling, or even mother (as long as you and the other are of age... Although I don't even mind teens having sex but my free attitude is separate from this debate) you should e allowed to.

This is why I hate religion, why I hate bullying the weird and why I myself will raise my future children to be as original as they wish (within sensible reason, based on logic, not stigma). I want to truly understand why, in the future if I am sexually attracted to my daughter, and she to me and if my wife and I have a huge fallout and if my daughter and I wish to have sex we shouldn't do so (presuming both of us are single consenting adults and I merely would be appeasing her raging hormones, and she my raging... never mind...) but seriously I'm saying it like this to let you see it how I see it... why not? I would NEVER molest my daughter as a girl paedophilia is very wrong indeed. However the adult brain is different, I wouldn't be taking advantage of an innocent child I'd be enjoying the body of another adult and she the body of mine... There is a huge difference between molesting and consensual sex just to make it clear.

Thank you.


You are one talented noobsniper indeed.

I accepted this knowing very well both sides would say eh why the hell not before the end, but now I see your challenage was to get one hell of a win. I applaud you god sir, I do.

I have absolutely no comeback my whole plan was a casual arguement. And as that's gone out the window...........................

How 'bout dem bears??
Debate Round No. 4


Not sure if I want to hunt you down and murder you or hunt you down and offer my firstborn kitten to be the Feline Guardian to the King of Snipe
Haha I so should have seen this coming....................................
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by RationalMadman 5 years ago
Prowler I don't even have a daughter. I don't like incest. I just think some people might, and should be allowed to.
Posted by ProwlerKnight 5 years ago
Incest actually is allowed, I mean there's no laws that say you can't have sex with family members, as long as it's in a room and all members are of legal age.

The only situation with Incest is many people look down on it severely, but really they can't do anything about it unless one of the members is underage or being force without their consent, but that's just rape and molestation which is a totally different story, and as well as if it's not within the confines of a room and not in public, which is, agian, another matter.

Me personally, you and your daughter or sister or cousin or whatever want to release those "urges" of yours in your own home and both of you are of legal age, be my guest, sex is sex no matter whos involved.

Now if you all don't play it safe and have a kid together, I believe you should have the kid, but that's just me.
Posted by Batboy 5 years ago
Nidd, It didin't get into round three
Sponge............. Shut up
Philo It's just sex not marriage, but still think about the uncledaddy babies......
Posted by Nidhogg 5 years ago
... This is pretty F*cked up guys. And also, in what way did religion get into round 3!?
Posted by emospongebob527 5 years ago
Well technically sex can be done without a pregnancy.
Posted by RationalMadman 5 years ago
just sex
Posted by philochristos 5 years ago
When you say "incest," are you talking about sex alone, or are you talking about marriage? My own position is that sex between related people should not be forbidden, whether contraceptives are used or not, but marriage should be forbidden between related people. Also, if pregnancy results from sex between related people, I am still against abortion.
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Reasons for voting decision: I can't really say any of the arguments were convincing, but for whatever reason con simply did not put a serious case up from the very beggining. Pro took advantage of the vagueness and forced a concession of the debate. Really though, in spite of the three points for pro simply due to the concession, I think all of humanity loses here.