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brian_eggleston
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pickle338
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Indecent exposure laws should be gender specific

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Started: 1/27/2009 Category: Society
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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brian_eggleston

Pro

There's nothing more unsightly on a woman's body than tan lines but the only way a girl can avoid them is to sunbathe naked. Unfortunately, in the past, puritans, ultra-orthodox prudes and bikini salesmen have been very successful in lobbying lawmakers to ban nudist beaches. This means that the only way most women can get an all-over tan is to strip off in their own back gardens.

Of course, some gardens are overlooked by neighbouring properties. Now picture, if you will, a fine summer's day. You are sitting on the veranda enjoying a Pimm's and lemonade when the nineteen year-old blonde stunner from next door comes out into her back garden, slips off her robe revealling her beautifully-sculpted nubile young body in all its natural glory, spreads a towel out on the lawn and lies down to soak up the rays. Imagine that, if you can. If you can't, here are some pictures:

http://www.just-provence.com...
A photo of a sunny veranda

http://www.beginsathome.com...
A picture of a glass of Pimm's and lemonade

http://lh3.ggpht.com...
A completely uncensored full-frontal shot of some cheeky little vixen wearing absolutely no clothes sunbathing in the back garden

(Yes, I know, but this is a family-friendly website).

Now, being a kind and thoughtful neighbour, you naturally get up and walk over to the dividing fence to find out if she needs any help putting her suntan lotion on, but just as you get there, Mr. Privet-Hedge: the pipe-smoking, cardigan-wearing irate old prig from the house on the other side appears and starts mouthing off at her.

"Your behaviour is grossly offensive to normal decent persons in society and I am extremely shaken by this, young lady," rants the coffin-dodging old prude, "This is very upsetting and worrying. I intend to call the police and have them arrest you for indecent exposure."

And with that, the interfering old git disappears in a rage while the girl goes back inside to get dressed pending the imminent arrival of the filth.

In California, Penal Code Section 314, subsection 1, states that "every person who wilfully {sic} and lewdly exposes his person, or the private parts thereof, in any public place, or in any place where there are present other persons to be offended or annoyed...is guilty of a misdemeanour".

You will have noted that Californian lawmakers were astute enough to make this legislation gender specific so that if a man sunbathes in the nick he will be breaking the law but if some gorgeous teen lovely gets her kit off that's fine.

Sadly, however, in other parts of the world, women are routinely arrested in their own backyards and carted away by the police for the crime of basking in the altogether.

This is wrong and indecent exposure laws must be gender specific in order to allow women to enjoy the sunshine as nature intended.

Thank You.
pickle338

Con

I am going to make my 1st arguement short and sweet. So you are just going to strip everyone of their rights to enjoy sunbathing on their own property? (excuse the pun please) If people in the immediate area are offended they should not be allowed to do anything about it. It's the sunbathers property they should be able to do whatever they want. And if it's a guy who cares if the neighbors don't like it, don't look at it. It's that simple.
Debate Round No. 1
brian_eggleston

Pro

I should like to extend my thanks to my opponent who wrote:

"So you are just going to strip everyone of their rights to enjoy sunbathing on their own property?"

No, they are already prohibited from doing so by law and I would refer my opponent to the statute reproduced in my previous argument. However, that particular piece of legislation was unusual in that it was gender specific. My argument is that this should be the norm, rather than the exception.

The fact is, only the most prudish of people would object to a naked woman sunbathing in her own garden, although undoubtedly there are such people.

http://news.bbc.co.uk...

On the other hand, almost everybody would be offended by the sight of a man doing the same thing. Men (except the tiny minority that are homosexual) don't like to look at other men naked and women don't leer at naked men either.

If you think about the racks of a newsagent, for men there are car, boat and plane magazines plus the top shelf publications featuring explicit photographs of naked women in sexually provocative poses (or so I am told).

Meanwhile, for women, there are fashion, cooking and celebrity gossip magazines, but none with pictures of sexually aroused naked men.

There's no "Master debater Brian Eggleston talks exclusively to Women's Needs Magazine about all the lucky ladies he has slept with around the world plus don't miss highly explicit photographs of this gorgeous hunk with his **** out - only in this week's Women's Needs! Still only ninety-nine cents."

That is why it should be legal for women to sunbathe naked in the garden, but not men and I hereby commend this proposal to the House.

Thank you.
pickle338

Con

Now i'm not going to write any long somewhat boring lecture on this topic, but is it really acceptable to tell a man that he can not sunbathe naked on his OWN property. IT should be legal for any gender to go naked on their property and as long as they don't leave their property it should be acceptable. Like i have said before if people don't like it, don't look at it.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Shes_Electric 8 years ago
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It was nearly humorous to me to see The Instigator state that the law he quoted was gender specific.

All laws use the masculine form of gender to indicate 'all people'. It has been that way for decades upon decades. It is not exclusive to the male gender.

As such, that reference bears no weight with me.

I also fully disagree with The Instigator that there is nothing more unsightly on a woman than a tan line. I think a large infestation of herpes on a woman's face or scabies burrowing through her skin are more unsightly.

There are things more disagreeable to the eyes than tan lines, kind sir.

Your argument is based on vanity and an ignorance for the language of law. You lose in my view.
Posted by Valku 8 years ago
Valku
I'll take this one tommorow if nobody already has.
Posted by brian_eggleston 8 years ago
brian_eggleston
I know you prefer your women to have pale skin but your "fix" would put the kybosh on the whole debate!
Posted by s0m31john 8 years ago
s0m31john
"There's nothing more unsightly on a woman's body than A tan"

I fixed it for you.
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