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Indiscipline does lead to a decline in moral values among children

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Started: 10/12/2013 Category: Philosophy
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Vace

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"Character is, by its very nature, the product of discipline". These are the words of Austin Phelps an American Congregational Minister and an educator.
Growing indiscipline is a major problem among children in the world today. Many research articles show that one of the most devastating effects of indiscipline is a decline in moral, social and cultural values in children.
Discipline can possibly be defined as the ability to make yourself do the thing you have to do when it ought to be done, whether you like it or not. According to Thomas Huxley discipline is the first lesson to be learned, and it is probably the last lesson a person learns thoroughly.
"We sow an act, we reap a habit; we sow a habit, we reap a character." I believe that this is a direct result of discipline. Correct habits depend largely on self-discipline. However a failure to be disciplined or our undisciplined lifestyle results in the sprouting of weeds which choke the plants of virtue. True success is not measured by the amount of money that one has stocked up or by a great accomplishment; rather success is the crown possessed by those who earnestly do their best and live the everyday simple life by practicing all the virtues that it involves. A successful person is one who is honest in his transactions, who rings true in friendships and who is ever living to his moral ethics and values. Living an undisciplined lifestyle makes us vulnerable to undesirable moral qualities such as laziness, indulgence, self-centeredness, greed, unpunctuality and so on.
Research has shown than people stop changing their outlook and mind-sets after the age of about 25 and the adolescent period is the period in which our ideologies take a firm shape. These ideologies are defined by our discipline. So, if we are undisciplined now, then we will follow in the paths of undesirable virtues. Indiscipline is a major cause of violence in schools and classrooms. The ideals of forgiveness and brotherhood have disappeared and have been replaced with revenge. Students no longer want everyone to succeed. They either want a win-lose situation or a lose-lose situation. They are even fine with the fact that it is okay to lose as long as my opponent is in the situation. A win-lose situation results in resentment, and both parties are not happy. This arises from the virtue of self-centeredness and even jealousy.
An undisciplined lifestyle leads to the adoption of a very dangerous virtue. Once we inculcate it we become caught in a spider"s web and the habit will stick to us and will lead to desolation in our lives. This deadly habit is procrastination. It involves unpunctuality and laziness.
Hence, I rest my case.
spartacus123

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The facts that have been stated are not legitimate. The fact that indiscipline leads to decline in moral values is false. The Instigator hasn't explicitly stated if it is the children's fault or the parents fault. In the case of it being the parent's fault, this should be titled "Parents lack of discipline leads to a deficiency of morals in their children". But if this case is, as it has stated, then I will begin to argue upon the facts. In the World true success is measured by the amount of money you have obtained, and even if these people are corrupt, it must have taken some discipline to build empires. So those people did have discipline. Also numerous people will translate, your amiable transitions, into weakness, and they will manipulate you. you can have morals, but if they are only acceptable in your own eyes, but not in others, how do they even assist. The Instigator stated, that the effects of an undisciplined lifestyle, are, laziness, self-indulgence, self-cent redness, greed, and unpunctuality. These are symptoms that all humans experience. It is, as if the Instigator stated, that indiscipline leads to sleeping on a saturday. Everybody is familiar with saying that "you never stop learning". You might have philosophies set, but with proof your mind can be reformed. Falling into undesirable virtues aren't the product of undiscipline, but the product of incorrect morals and you, like I previous stated, you can be disciplined but with atrocious morals. Violence is not the product of indiscipline the cause of violence isn't frivilioius there is always a imperative reason. Brotherhood is amiable, but competition fuels people, and with to much friendliness the significant part, that is competition fades.
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