The Instigator
SPENCERJOYAGE14
Pro (for)
Winning
8 Points
The Contender
neebs56
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points

Indoctrination and brainwashing are not the same thing.

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after 2 votes the winner is...
SPENCERJOYAGE14
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/6/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 724 times Debate No: 45322
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (4)
Votes (2)

 

SPENCERJOYAGE14

Pro

I will be arguing Pro, that indoctrination and brainwashing are not the same thing, con will be arguing that indoctrination and brainwashing are the same thing.

This is not a troll debate, no defining terms to change the context of this debate resolution.

One forfeit will equal loss of conduct, two will equal 7 point loss.

If you need something defined PM me before you accept and I will define it now, if not I will save definitions for second round.
*First round is for the acceptance of rules.
**Second round I will define words and we will both bring up our cases, no rebuttals.
***Third round rebuttals.
****Forth round over view of case and voting issues.

Hope you accept. *^.^*
neebs56

Con

I accept the rules.
My argument:
In the world today, the relevance of religion to our modern society is a highly debated subject, and one of the most common topics of the subject is that "Should children be indoctrinated". My opinion? In laymen"s terms, no. I think that it is abhorrently wrong that people brainwash children. The reason that children believe in religious views, is that they will believe most things they are told. They don"t make the rather obvious connections between mass killing and being a bad-tempered and indiscriminate ". that any adult would when told the story for the first time. But then we tell children all sorts of preposterous things and they lap them up. There are two very good reasons for this: firstly children don"t have enough experience of life to see how crazy some of the things we tell them are and secondly a capacity to accept to see the other side of the argument.
Debate Round No. 1
SPENCERJOYAGE14

Pro


[1] Indoctrination: teaching someone to accept doctrines uncritically.


[2] Brainwashing: a form of mind control.


As we see in my definitions indoctrination is teaching and brainwashing is mind control. My BoP has been fulfilled.


[1] http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...


[2] http://en.wikipedia.org...



REBUTTAL:


As I stated in rules the 2nd round is for cases, but he stated some random thoughts in round 1 hat had nothing to do with the topic. It sadly has been pointed out to me that Con has plagiarized these thoughts from this website: http://right2think.org....


Plagiarizing is a criminal offence and it is against the debate.org terms and service, it is an extremely serious thing to do. Since my opponent has broken these rules vote Pro to show him there is a punishment for what he has done.


neebs56

Con

neebs56 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
SPENCERJOYAGE14

Pro

One forfeit will equal loss of conduct, two will equal 7 point loss. Vote Pro.
neebs56

Con

neebs56 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
SPENCERJOYAGE14

Pro

This would have been a good debate. Vote Pro.
neebs56

Con

neebs56 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by SPENCERJOYAGE14 3 years ago
SPENCERJOYAGE14
Wow. Thank you. :/
Posted by ZenoCitium 3 years ago
ZenoCitium
@Spencerjoyage14: I am currently debated a similar topic with neebs56. Unfortunately, I found that he plagiarized from the source below. I believe he has done the same in this case.

http://right2think.org...
Posted by SPENCERJOYAGE14 3 years ago
SPENCERJOYAGE14
He's confused...
Posted by saxman 3 years ago
saxman
The pro never brought up religion. The con just went on a rant.
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Vote Placed by Krazzy_Player 3 years ago
Krazzy_Player
SPENCERJOYAGE14neebs56Tied
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Vote Placed by GaryBacon 3 years ago
GaryBacon
SPENCERJOYAGE14neebs56Tied
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Reasons for voting decision: As per the rules of the debate, Pro gets the full 7 points. Furthermore, in the only argument presented by Con, he seemed to be arguing against brainwashing of children, which was not the topic of the debate.