The Instigator
pcmbrown
Pro (for)
Winning
21 Points
The Contender
InfraRedEd
Con (against)
Losing
7 Points

InfraRedEd

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pcmbrown
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/24/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 881 times Debate No: 8404
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pcmbrown

Pro

Resolved: InfraRedEd irritates/has irritated/amuses/has amused one or more members of debate.org.

Note that all "/" indicate "and/or"

InfraRedEd: The debate.org member listed under the username "InfraRedEd"

Irritate: To rouse to impatience or anger

Amuse: To appeal to the sense of humor of

One or more: A number equal to, or greater than one

Debate.org members: Those persons who have registered for debate.org accounts

InfraRedEd has irritated me on a number of occasions, by: ruining perfectly good debate topics, posting incoherent arguments, and posting debates on useless topics. In addition, he has amused me with his persistent use of the argument "m", and with his blatant sexism. I'm certain other members have been irritated and/or amused by his antics.
InfraRedEd

Con

Resolved: InfraRedEd irritates/has irritated/amuses/has amused one or more members of debate.org.

Well duh.

Note that all "/" indicate "and/or"

http://en.wikipedia.org...

"The phrase has come under considerable criticism in the legal profession in both American and British courts. Judges have called it a "freakish fad," an "accuracy-destroying symbol," and "meaningless." The Wisconsin Supreme Court referred to it as "that befuddling, nameless thing, that Janus-faced verbal monstrosity." Perhaps most crushing of all, the Kentucky Supreme Court said it was a "much-condemned conjunctive-disjunctive crutch of sloppy thinkers." It is particularly damaging in legal writing, in addition to being generally sloppy writing, because a bad-faith reader of a contract can pick whichever suits him, the "and" or the "or."[2] Courts called on to interpret it have applied a wide variety of standards, with little agreement."

InfraRedEd: The debate.org member listed under the username "InfraRedEd"

My opponent needs to prove that usernames cannot be changed at will.

Irritate: To rouse to impatience or anger

Amuse: To appeal to the sense of humor of

Note that it does not say "successfully."

One or more: A number equal to, or greater than one

No, you cannot have 1 1/2 members. What does my opponent mean by "number?"

Debate.org members: Those persons who have registered for debate.org accounts

Whether those accounts have been granted, or subsequently suspended, or not.

InfraRedEd has irritated me on a number of occasions, by: ruining perfectly good debate topics, posting incoherent arguments, and posting debates on useless topics. In addition, he has amused me with his persistent use of the argument "m", and with his blatant sexism. I'm certain other members have been irritated and/or amused by his antics.

Well then surely my opponent could exhibit one or two.

I cannot help it if girls are just stupid. This does not make me sexist.
Debate Round No. 1
pcmbrown

Pro

"Well duh."
My opponent appears to concede the debate.

His "and/or" arguments are irrelevant.

"My opponent needs to prove that usernames cannot be changed at will."
I do not. This burden is absurd, and the resolution can be affirmed without said proof.

"Note that it does not say 'successfully.'"
Again, this is irrelevant.

"No, you cannot have 1 1/2 members. What does my opponent mean by 'number?'"

My mistake, the intended meaning was "whole number".

"Whether those accounts have been granted, or subsequently suspended, or not."

As my opponent has not challenged this definition, it stands.

"Well then surely my opponent could exhibit one or two."

Debates
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Sexism
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"m"
http://www.debate.org...
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"I cannot help it if girls are just stupid. This does not make me sexist."
Once again with the sexism.
InfraRedEd

Con

Minus numbers are whole numbers. So is zero.

My opponent has cited some of my best debates. You should see the bad ones.

I have amused many. I am not very inclined to dispute that.

Girls brain develop differently from boys brains. To argue that they are the same is wishful thinking. They are not the same. Therefore they must be different.

Logical reasoning is one difference. There are others.
Debate Round No. 2
pcmbrown

Pro

"I have amused many. I am not very inclined to dispute that."
Thus, my opponent concedes that, InfraRedEd has amused one or more members of debate.org, proving the resolution to be true. Also, he has not actually provided refutations to my points, only absurd observations on meaningless semantics.

"Resolved: InfraRedEd irritates/has irritated/amuses/has amused one or more members of debate.org.

Note that all '/' indicate 'and/or'" This has been shown to be true. Therefore, please vote in the Proposition of this resolution.

Thanks for reading.
InfraRedEd

Con

What resolution? Zero comments. Zero votes. Let's keep it that way.
It's hard to break zero visitors though but the real election machines could do it with their minus votes.
"one or more" includes myself and I certainly crack myself up. I am the funniest guy I know.
It will be my pleasure to continue to irritate and/or amuse zero or more or fewer members even dead ones.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by fresnoinvasion 8 years ago
fresnoinvasion
It's good that you realize that
Posted by pcmbrown 8 years ago
pcmbrown
Honestly, I couldnt care less about "exposing my beliefs". However, I do care about improving the quality of my debate, and obviously, neither my selection of topic, nor that of opponent, furthered that goal. I shall steer away from this kind of debate in the future.
Posted by pcmbrown 8 years ago
pcmbrown
sorry bout that =/
Posted by fresnoinvasion 8 years ago
fresnoinvasion
I give InfraRedEd all of my votes for a couple reasons.

1) Hopefully others will do the same (vote con) so that instigators will not be inclined to start these meaningless debates.
2) It is apparent that InfraRedEd does not care about his win/loss record, just to be heard. That would be a positive quality. pcmbrown on the other hand probably cares about his win/loss record more than actually exposing his beliefs to other members of the site. That would not be a positive quality.
3) Because pcmbrown cares so much about his win/loss record, he will not start more debates like this that cause for no positive change in the real world.

pcmbrown. There are going to be people that you dislike wherever you go. Instead of being immature and trying to look like a "superior" person to them you must learn to at least put up with them.

You have a membership to debate.org, go ahead and engage yourself in meaningful debates that allow you to share your beliefs with others and expose "truths" to even those that you do not know. Don't waste your time with stupid things like these.
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