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Intelligence is more important than physical attractiveness

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Started: 12/30/2013 Category: People
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trialrun

Pro

(Please note, this is my first debate on here, so I apologise in advance if I have done this wrong.
Also, I may be a touch biased in this as I myself possess a high IQ and greatly believe intelligence is more important than physical beauty or attractiveness.)

(For this debate, intelligence will be defined as the ability in which one applies knowledge and uses reason)

Intelligence is more important than physical attractiveness because intelligence can create a variety of positive and helpful outcomes or create useful technology for society.

Intelligence allows a person to achieve a much more diverse range of careers, most of which directly allow and provide the required needs for society to function. This includes the invention of new medicine, new technology, solutions to problems, the finding of criminals, negotiating with other countries which leads to peace and an expansion of knowledge of the world and how it works.

Advanced reasoning skills can be applied to multiple situation which can save lives. This includes the intelligence to know how to survive an animal attack, help someone experiencing an unexpected heart attack or seizure, and being able to find the things essential for life in a situation where it is impossible to contact another person.

Without intelligence, people would be nothing more than animals. Humans are a species of animal, but they are a very advanced species because of their intelligence.
Physical Attraction is not necessary in society, and leads to vanity and narcissism.
Physical attraction has been made out to be something required for relationships and to do well in life, but it means nothing where it counts. Would a blind man care whether the person he spoke to looked nice? Or if he could have a logical conversation with them?

All Physical attractiveness leads to is self-esteem problems for those who are of average or below looks, where someone who is of average intelligence is more than accepted into society.

I would like Con to please answer this question:
In what situation does physical attractiveness defeat intelligence?
anibuni

Con

Physical attraction is much more appealing to people of our age. Now you said that intelligence is more important than physical attractiveness because intelligence can create a variety of positive and helpful outcomes or create useful technology for society. But the problem here is that intelligence can also create destructive things. For example the invention of the atomic bomb created havoc in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The destruction created kept the world in shock and people still criticize the users. Using intelligence can lead to serious problems. Using our intelligence we created different nature harmful things such as plastics, fumes etc. which ultimately will fire on us back in the future. Being physically attractive never has any disadvantages.

Talking about making careers, hey the most famous people in the world today are film actors. People get a lot more entertained by watching their favourite bodybuilders and superstars. It motivates them to get healthy and exercise and improve fitness. Talking about criminals wont the criminals have advantage if they could find new techniques to rob, murder etc. if they used their high IQ level? By the way intelligence will never help you in fending of thieves rather muscular strength will save you in such situations. A person can easily get intimidated by the way you look. I feel that average intelligence is required and that's what separates us from animals.

What's the freaking use is you are super duper intelligent but cant walk a few feet just because you are obese? The world will laugh at you and you in turn will get depressed and the person may commit suicide. Physical fitness is much more important than intelligence because not being fit will get you a disease whereas not being intelligent will not have any consequences. Being physically fit doesn't require a degree but to showcase your intelligence you need a degree and may be a burden on your parents. Who would want to marry an intelligent guy or gal who has no proper eating habits, exercise, way too obese etc. The face value is more important.
Debate Round No. 1
trialrun

Pro

You have stated that the problem with intelligence leading to good things is that it also leads to bad, and quite frankly is there anything that can"t lead to negative outcomes if used incorrectly? Strength can be used to build shelter, but it could also be used to strangle someone to death. Or water which is essential for life, could be used to consume, or be used to drown someone in.

Saying "Being physically attractive never has any disadvantages" is very much so, a fallacy. I say this because if one is focused purely on being physically attractive, they may develop a disorder such as anorexia or bulimia, they may become extremely self-conscious, and spend thousands of dollars to achieve an unrealistic idea of true beauty or attractiveness. (1)As an example, make-up is used only to make one-self look better or more physically attractive, and women have grown so self-conscious that 6 in 10 women refuse to go to work without a full face of make-up. There is no way to make yourself look better (If you"re already a physically healthy human being of course), except expensive plastic surgeries, and even then, it often occurs that one is never satisfied with how they look. Whereas, with intelligence, you can increase it, through games and practice at thinking in more depth.

Another disadvantage of being physically attractive is that it may make you a target of a robbery, since many people judge based on appearance and if you look nice you must be rich, or another example, a woman may become the target of a rapist if she is overly physically attractive. The only thing being highly intelligent puts you in danger of is arrogance and getting angry at those less intelligent than you.

You also stated, "Talking about making careers, hey the most famous people in the world today are film actors." I do not see how that supports your argument; after all, many people mostly care that an actor can act. Physically attractiveness is not a key aspect in becoming an actor, look at the cast of "The Big Bang Theory", not many would be considered physically attractive in the show. The same goes for many movies and TV shows, except perhaps in teenage dramas.

If said person was obese (This is a very circumstantial argument. If someone is intelligent, it does not make them obese. In the same sense, someone who is physically attractive isn't necessarily stupid. I was assuming that we were going by the pretense that being average fitness and above average intelligence was more important, or better, than being of average intelligence and above average looks. Sorry for the confusion) , they can still sit in a lab and work on a cure to cancer. So there is still a good use of their intelligence there.

And in saying the world would laugh at you, the intelligent person may not care, because they don"t care about how others see them. (2) It"s been proven that people with high intelligence levels don"t care about the opinions of others as much. Therefore, they wouldn't develop depression and commit suicide.

True, being unfit can lead to diseases, but if someone is trying to get a tan to make themselves look good, they are likely to get melanoma or skin cancer. And it may have indirect consequences, such as a consequence from a bad decision because they didn"t use any reason, rational thinking or common sense in said decision. For example, having unprotected sex with someone on impulse and getting an STD, or having an unwanted pregnancy, not to mention moral guilt if one lost their virginity and felt bad about it afterwards.

Or to showcase your intelligence you could do online debates" Or take an I.Q test which wouldn't only prove your intelligence, but it gives you the chance to win a scholarship to a good university where they pay for your degree, no burden on your parents if that happens. Or just get high grades and win a scholarship without an I.Q test, again no strain on your parents. Or you can just talk to people, and they will realize you are intelligent.

I would like to point out that a physically attractive guy or gal may have anorexia, which isn't"t a proper eating habit whatsoever. The face value is more important? Seriously? What about if you stay married into your sixties, where both the male and female would no longer be sexually active, meaning there"s no point in physical attractiveness (I doubt they"d still be physically attractive at that age anyways) and one couldn't string together a meaningful sentence?

(1)http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

(2) http://www.eupedia.com...
Specifically, the quote derived from this source, "Because they care less about the opinion and esteem of others, they tend to be less socially oriented, but also feel less easily lonely. Maybe it is because they have a very heightened sense of the "self"."
anibuni

Con

Oh! god its tough when you fight for something which you don't like to go against. Anyway I have some points to make so here they go.

In an Australian study, researchers morphed photographs of young adults so that their faces were perfectly symmetrical. In general, the symmetric version of each face — both male and female — received higher health ratings than the normal image. Individuals with asymmetric faces were perceived as unhealthy. So this is one of the advantages of being physically attractive as you appear as a good social image to others.

It's comparatively easier for beautiful people to find mates. Who wouldn't want a wife or a husband who looks absolutely stunning and handsome? Men seek attractive girls as they are signs of youth, reproductive maturity etc. Now here is an example to show that physical fitness and the way the body is postured is very essential to being intelligent.
University of New Mexico researchers found that general intelligence is positively linked to body symmetry, a characteristic that is indicative of attractive qualities like health, social dominance, and fitness-related biological traits.

Secondly, attractive people are more confident than others. Simply because most people go by face value and thus good-looking people can use their sex appeal to command attention and to get ahead, say in a job interview or when asking for a promotion. Attractive people are more persuasive, in part, because they also possess or develop key personality traits — like intelligence and strong social skills — that make them more effective communicators.
Researchers also found that compared to unattractive speakers, attractive speakers were much more fluent talkers. Studies show that companies with attractive workers have higher revenues because of the influences caused during interaction.

Beautiful people have the upper-hand in politics, according to a study in Finland which found that both male and female political candidates who look better than their competitors are more successful better individual beauty score was associated with an increase of 20% in the number of votes for the average non-incumbent parliamentary candidate. Perceived competence and trustworthiness had less of an effect. The study authors suggests that voters favor good-looking candidates because they enjoy watching them and they fare better in social situations.

You could say that the physical appearance is superficial and intelligence isn't. A person though can be very physically attractive and have many good qualities such as a sense of humour, honesty and loyalty but still be relatively unintelligent. Conversely a person can be very intelligent and be lacking in honesty, loyalty, and many other admirable traits. So is intelligence really any deeper a quality than physical beauty?

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You could say that the physical appearance is superficial and intelligence isn't. A person though can be very physically attractive and have many good qualities such as a sense of humour, honesty and loyalty but still be relatively unintelligent. Conversely a person can be very intelligent and be lacking in honesty, loyalty, and many other admirable traits. So is intelligence really any deeper a quality than physical beauty?


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You could say that the physical appearance is superficial and intelligence isn't. A person though can be very physically attractive and have many good qualities such as a sense of humour, honesty and loyalty but still be relatively unintelligent. Conversely a person can be very intelligent and be lacking in honesty, loyalty, and many other admirable traits. So is intelligence really any deeper a quality than physical beauty?


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You could say that the physical appearance is superficial and intelligence isn't. A person though can be very physically attractive and have many good qualities such as a sense of humour, honesty and loyalty but still be relatively unintelligent. Conversely a person can be very intelligent and be lacking in honesty, loyalty, and many other admirable traits. So is intelligence really any deeper a quality than physical beauty?

Read more: http://www.physicsforums.com...


You could say that the physical appearance is superficial and intelligence isn't. A person though can be very physically attractive and have many good qualities such as a sense of humour, honesty and loyalty but still be relatively unintelligent. Conversely a person can be very intelligent and be lacking in honesty, loyalty, and many other admirable traits. So is intelligence really any deeper a quality than physical beauty?

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Debate Round No. 2
trialrun

Pro

Most of that round you used research and studies for your points, but you haven't provided any sources.

There is no source, nor a statistic on how many people found asymmetric faces unhealthy. I doubt this fact is true, as I know of many people with asymmetric faces who are considered highly attractive and more than healthy.

One could say that two intelligent people will seek each-other out, or that love is blind. And I'm going to say it again to answer your question, as rhetorical as it is, that a blind person wouldn't care if their wife or husband looked stunning.

"Men seek attractive girls as they are signs of youth, reproductive maturity etc."

True, but there are two parts in a relationship; emotional and physical. The physical part will deteriorate over time, where intelligence remains forever as long as no diseases or disorders begin to affect the person. Attractive girls are not necessarily reproductively mature.

I would like to ask if Con has heard of Stephen Hawking? He does not appear physically attractive at all and he is a brilliant mind. Again, there's no source, but I"ll humor you anyway.
In fact, the most brilliant minds alive today are not physically attractive or overly fit. For example, Paul Allen, Rick Rosner and Gary Kasparov.

I believe many intelligent people are confident, charismatic and excellent speakers. And having to use sex appeal seems like a pretty bad skill to get ahead in a job interview, after all there's a one in two chance you'll have a same gender interviewer. Where with intelligence, you can show off your skill of intelligence with anyone, or even a bit of paper that says "Job Application Form."

People who are unattractive or of average looks, are less intimidating and allow people to open up easier. Since people do go by face value, seeing someone who is average, maybe like them, brings a feeling of familiarity and they feel comfortable with the person because they're not perfect. One of your arguments is that attractive people are more persuasive than intelligent people because they're intelligent. Do you not see a problem with that in a debate about intelligence versus attractiveness? Intelligent people can also develop a confident, charismatic air, and be excellent public speakers because they understand how the mind works, and know how to persuade and manipulate people. After all, it is basic psychology that most intelligent speakers would be familiar with.

Again no source, but oh well. What about Obama? And I say this next part in a completely unoffensive way, (1) but in 2012, the census found that 77.9% of the American population was white. And it is a known fact that cross-racial relationships are uncommon, and most people do not find other races attractive. There are exceptions of course, but I'm only saying that Obama was voted in as President in a country with a population of a majority of people who didn't find him attractive. And hey, have you seen the politicians in Australia lately? Maybe if one was attractive we'd actually like our Prime Ministers more, but basically, intelligence is more important in politics down under. Young politicians are very rare.
If this fact is true, it does surprise me, as my family has always reviewed a Politician's achievements and promises before voting. And our school Captain is over-weight and has one eye smaller than the other. He was voted in by students because of his charisma and promises. This part obviously can't be proven, so I apologize for going off topic.

(1)http://quickfacts.census.gov...
anibuni

Con

The sources will be at he end of this debate round. The physical part will deteriorate over time, where intelligence remains forever as long as no diseases or disorders begin to affect the person. You said the above line. But the point here is that inorder to not get affeted by diseases you do need physical fitness. You talk about Gary Kasparov. May I bring to your notice that chess grandmasters give first priority to exercising in the gym. The source is me meeting with Vishwanathan Anand and having this chat with him. Well even physically fit people can have confidence, charisma and excellent speakers. For example superstars in WWE. Dwayne'The Rock' Johnson, John Cena, Daniel bryan. In particular The Rock and Daniel bryan cause they don't have the necessary intelligence but Bryan won the slammy award for superstar of the year, and he was the number 1 trend worldwide on mondays and fridays. All the guys there are physical attractive and the evidence is the record 84,000 audience at wrestlemania 29 at metlife stadium New Jersey.

As it is in the Bhagwadgeeta a peope's reflection of the inside being is shown on the outside. So naturally a guy who is physically fit has to have intelligence. Physical fit people have more determination than intelligent people. Simply because they need to have the will power to workout in the GYM or climb the Everest.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by trialrun 3 years ago
trialrun
If Con sees this, you never posted your sources...?
Posted by Speakerfrthedead 3 years ago
Speakerfrthedead
While it is true that intelligence is more important than physical attractiveness in the sense that it contributes more to society and helps it grow by technology and education, it is arguable that physical attractiveness still holds more benefits for a person. With good looks, one can easily find a mate and fall in love which then provides happiness for that person. And that person will be much more confident with him or herself because they know that they look good in physical appearance, so they will not fear social contact and be much more outgoing in life. It is arguable that happiness for an individual is more important to the individual than intelligence.
Personally i think you can't argue about which is more important. I think having an equal or fair amount of good looks and intelligence is the most beneficial to the person in his or her life. This is just my opinion and my comment. (and my first comment on a debate so thank you for giving me that opportunity!)
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