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Haxis288
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Iran had a right to declare war on Iraq

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Started: 12/18/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Haxis288

Pro

Iran had the right to invade Iraq the Caus Belili was obvious. Saddam Hussien was a insult to the Ba'ath Party of Iraq and attacked the Shi'ite Majortiy that Iran became the defender of in 1979. Saddam also Funded Wahabi Groups which is Anti-Shia and a embarrassment to Islam. He also petrayed the Arab Socialist Ba'ath party and acted more like a Fascist than a Socialist. He also betrayed the Assad family in Syria banned Ashura and Closed of Imam Hussien and Ali shrines. He was a Sunni running a Shi'ite Nation and oppressing the Shi'ite Majorty. He was nothing more than a American puppet tyrant he must be suppressed.
TF2PRO

Con

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
Haxis288

Pro

I would like to start out with pointing out problems with the Iraqi government at the time. Saddam Hussein was a Sunni Muslim leading a nation with mostly Shias and two of the Holiest Shia sites are there tomb of Hussien in Karbala and of Abbas than the tomb of Ali in Najaf. Iran had a Islamic revolution lead by a Shi'ite Aytollah were Iran is a Shi'ite nation as well. Saddam Hussien attacked the Shi'ite Majority in Iraq. He also claimed to be a Ba'ath party meber which the Iranian Revolutionary Governmet allied with. Syria & Iran both saw flaws in Saddam's Rule to a point were latter in the gulf wars they attacked Iraq. Saddam also created a conscripts policy which is Haram(Against Islam) for a Islamic nation or for a Muslim or Muslims in general. The Soviet Union also condemned Iraq in the Gulf War latter on. Saddam Hussien also had plans to attack Kuwait and did. Ayatollah Ruhollah Kohmeni the wise knew that he was oppressing Shi'ites this was more than a war this was a Jihad.
TF2PRO

Con

TF2PRO forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Haxis288 3 years ago
Haxis288
I'll debate it I'm not sure what it would be called Iran rights for Invadig Iraq pt.2?
Posted by ararmer1919 3 years ago
ararmer1919
Lol. If he's up for it.
Posted by wrichcirw 3 years ago
wrichcirw
lol, you guys should debate it, and please make the debate more than two rounds if you do (hint hint). =)
Posted by ararmer1919 3 years ago
ararmer1919
The Iraq Iran war was from September 1980 to August 1987. Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990. So where you came up with this as a reason for the defense of your argument I have no idea but it seems to me the kind of mistake that discredits you. By no means is that an insult against you it's just that this seems like a simple thing that shouldn't have been missed and if you got that wrong it makes me ask what else you got wrong. And I did say that Saddam was an arse that needed to die and that I believe that Iran had the right to invade. Just that your reasons weren't that good. For instance reguardless of what Saddam was doing religiously in his country, Iran had no say in it since it was his right as the ruler of his country. So to say Iran invaded because they needed to defend the majority Shia is wrong since this does not give Iran the right to start a war. Just this year thousands of members of the Muslim brotherhood have rioted and destroyed hundreds of very very old and very religious Christian and Jewish sites and churches/synagogues in Egypt. Yet has the pope called for a crusade? Has Israel invaded? Had the US bombed them? No. So where do you guys get off? And Hezbulla is a very large organization responsible for many things. Political, religious, military. And not all of them are evil. However it is undeniable that Hezbulla had committed many terrorist attacks over the years and this includes suicide bombings. This makes then a terrorist organization.
Posted by Haxis288 3 years ago
Haxis288
It's not that he was Sunni it's what he did "In the Name of Sunni and Iraq". Iraq is Shia he took away Shia rights as Hitler did to the Jewsih Community. Ashura is the most important event specific to Shi'ite Islam. He banned the Holiday. He also closed off Hussien Abbas and Ali shrines the most important Shia shrines. He also had planes to Demolish them. He also invaded Kuwait which Iran was against 100%. He was a oppressor of the Majority and a Tyrant Fascist. Iran claiming Defender of Shia invaded Iraq for this reason of attack Shias. Iran had a great cause with Hezbullah and Syria in Iraq. And I am not anti-semetic nor is Iran or Hezbllah Iran has a large Jewish community in Tehran who lives in peace with the Muslims and Hezbullah has Jews in administration and HR. They are Anti-Zionist which any one cane be. I am not a terrorist fanatic true Muslims condem Sucide Bombings for it is Haram or Unislamic for only Allah can create you and end you.
Posted by ararmer1919 3 years ago
ararmer1919
So your basing your argument that Iran had the right because Saddam was a different type of Muslim then they were? That because he was an "insult to Islam" they had the right to go to war and end up causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands? What the hell is this, the Middle Ages? Not standing up for Saddam of anything, he was a sick twisted ahole and I personaly do believe that Iran had the right to invade it's just that Pros reasons are extremely pathetic. But then again this is the same guy that says hizballah is not a terrorist organization.
Posted by Ragnar 3 years ago
Ragnar
Hopefully this will stay on topic, and not derail into a debate over if there is ever a right to declare war.
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