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Is 80s Music Better Than Today's Music?

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Started: 4/26/2016 Category: Music
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Joey888

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There are many artists who copy music from previous artists. In 5SOS, song Hey Yea!, there are parts of the song that sound exactly like Duran Duran's Hungry Like the Wolf. This is just one of many examples. Even if you the opponent do not see this, then listen to this: artists fom today also copy songs from other artists of today too. Music today is so bad. Each song sounds exactly the same
byansichter53

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So, basically, what you are saying is that people these days just copy songs with no originality and produce worse products. There are so many songs out there, so obviously some songs will sound similar. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are plainly copying and pasting tunes and lyrics on to their songs. There is also a such thing as inspiration, where songwriters add certain parts in their song to play tribute or reference other singers. Even if some songs sound similar it is most likely a coincidence. You said that all modern songs sound the same, but that is purely opinion. How come whenever and 80's song plays people know it's an 80's song? They have a similar tune and beat to all of them. All songs of a certain era have a same type of music. That is even the same for today but you can't say that it wasn't the same before. Why are you even putting 80's songs into one category if they all don't sound similar or the same? Music, amongst other things, evolve over time. You can't really expect things so remain the same after 30 years. Nostalgia blinds people into thinking that it was better, when in reality, the actual singers might not even agree with you. They make money if their songs do good, since all these popular new songs are making money, that must mean that the overall majority of the public like it better. People liked the 80's type songs back in the day, so the singers gave them a lot of it. People eventually wanted a change, so singers started to change along with them. If they remained exactly the same people nowadays would hate them, and say that songs are horrible and aren't innovative. Think about it, would you like it if songs nowadays sounded exactly the songs made in the 80's? "Plagiarism!" You would say, "These new singers are just copying old songs that sound exactly the same as the ones in the 80's!" You wouldn't want that, would you now?
Debate Round No. 1
Joey888

Pro

Here's the thing: artists can just change tempos of songs without anyone noticing it, and people think that this new song is completely original. Some songs such as "Heartache" slowed down one of Bonnie Tyler's songs so much, that it was not noticeable at all. If you were to listen to instrumentals of other songs, you would hear a lot of similarity. Inspiration is all right, but when they are inspired, they would not really try to make the song sound different. Instead of making something completely new, they just copy and snip some parts of the older song.
byansichter53

Con

Okay fair point. People change songs so they sound unrecognizable and they can say it's their own song. Just because some people do that doesn't mean modern music is bad though! People in the 80's still could've done that with 60's songs too. Plagiarism has always been a thing, it hasn't just started now. Either way, it doesn't mean that old songs were better, it just means that plagiarism is more common than it was in the 80's. Also if songs nowadays sound the same, and they are apparently all copies of 80's songs, doesn't that mean all songs since then have been the same? You said all songs nowadays are horrible and sound bad, but they apparently sound exactly the same as 80's songs. You also said all songs nowadays sound the same. Your info is contradicting itself. Sure they might be bad because there are apparently all copies but then why would they sound terrible? Don't you like the sound of 80's songs? I'll say this again, if all the 80's songs didn't sound somewhat similar, Why rank them into one category? Aren't they all completely different and original with absolutely no resemblance in any shape or form to other songs? Aren't they "completely new?" Like I said before earlier, you can't always just blame songs for somewhat sounding like others.
Debate Round No. 2
Joey888

Pro

Today's music sounds very dull. That is why they need all these disgusting videos to make up for lousy music. Their songs don't sound very bright and upbeat. It just sounds dull and boring. The songs of today are completely changed up versions of the 80s.
byansichter53

Con

You say "Disgusting music videos," like the invention on music videos is part on how modern music videos are bad. But you know who started the whole trend of music videos? Michael Jackson. Does that mean you think that Michael Jackson has "disgusting music videos?"

You also said that songs nowadays aren't very bright and upbeat. You sir, are very wrong. Songs nowadays and in the 80's had lots of variety with tempos and styles. That much hasn't changed. You can't call new music bad just because you think that it is not upbeat. Music being upbeat has nothing to do with it. It's the quality of the music itself. You were just saying purely based on opinion and nostalgia.

You keep bringing up that 80's songs are being changed up and inserted into modern songs. Technically, all songs are like that. When people grow up hearing songs, that is the music they know as music. When they are writing music later on, even if they make it original and different, they are still writing it based on the music that they identify as "music," because that's what they liked and still like listening to. Obviously there's going to be some similarities because they are making music that they like. It doesn't mean that it's a blunt copy and is garbage.

Either way, thanks for the debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by byansichter53 1 year ago
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Thanks for the debate! Even if I lose if was fun debating with you.
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