The Instigator
Chucknorris5799
Pro (for)
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The Contender
Ra1n
Con (against)
Winning
35 Points

Is America free?

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Ra1n
Voting Style: Open Point System: Select Winner
Started: 1/27/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (2)
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Chucknorris5799

Pro

America was one of the first if not the first country to throw of the chains of a monarchy to establish a democracy. They followed the examples of ancient Athens, the roman republic, and the philosophy of John Locke. Throughout its history more freedoms have come into being such as the banning of slavery and woman's suffrage The American Revolution also inspired countries in Europe and south and central america to have simular revolutions
America has always attracted immigrants from all over the world seeking freedom and better life.
Ra1n

Con

Free: able to act or be done as one wishes; not under the control of another

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No, America is not free. You can not go on a murderous rampage, engage in child pornography, or commit acts of terrorism without your freedom being taken away from you. It is also quite expensive to live in America, especially in New York.

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Debate Round No. 1
Chucknorris5799

Pro

Yes you are unable to commit heinous crimes such as the ones that you argued but we do have the right to choose and change what is legal in america. Say society changes and murder is acceptable than Americans can vote to make it legal therefore you'd be free to do it. America is free because we have the freedom to choose what we can do and what we can't do. All countries have laws but I would rather have a choice and a say in the laws then have them forced on me and that is what I call freedom
Ra1n

Con

In that case I will simply say that you are not free to do whatever you wish without first changing the laws. You have failed to define freedom or 'free' in the opening round and thus must adhere to my definition, which is absolute freedom. There obviously cannot exist any sort of absolute freedom in America and thus I win the debate. Furthermore, it would be obnoxious to believe that you can truly change laws revolving around murder through the process of voting, but that is beside the point.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by NNEye 2 years ago
NNEye
That voting time though.
Posted by Paleophyte 2 years ago
Paleophyte
Incidentally, using "Chuck Norris" in your username is pretty much just begging to have Chuck Norris show up in person and demonstrate why that is a bad idea.
Posted by NNEye 2 years ago
NNEye
Define "free."
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Vote Placed by Acarr130 2 years ago
Acarr130
Chucknorris5799Ra1n
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Reasons for voting decision: Sources cited, con failed do define to define terms of the debate.
Vote Placed by chrisjachimiak 2 years ago
chrisjachimiak
Chucknorris5799Ra1n
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Reasons for voting decision: Sad, Sad debate, but con did WAY better.
Vote Placed by Paleophyte 2 years ago
Paleophyte
Chucknorris5799Ra1n
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro failed to define his terms properly and Con capitalized on it. Pro would have had a difficult time defending this resolution regardless.
Vote Placed by carriead20 2 years ago
carriead20
Chucknorris5799Ra1n
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Reasons for voting decision: Con pointed out that no one is "free" due to laws and many other reasons. Con also had sources.
Vote Placed by NoMagic 2 years ago
NoMagic
Chucknorris5799Ra1n
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Reasons for voting decision: Sorry Pro. Lesson learned I guess. You should've defined what you meant by free. To argue NO because your not absolutely free is cheap in my opinion. One could be the only person in the world and not be "absolutely" free since you need water, must abide by gravity, and so one. No such thing as absolute freedom in any sense. Con wins on a technicality.