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Is America the world's greatest superpower.

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Started: 5/13/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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danielawesome12

Pro

I will be arguing that America is the world's greatest country.
JuliusMaximus

Con

I've already accepted a debate, where i am arguing that America is the greatest[for the challenge of proving an opinion I don't share. Now, I would like to debate that Mother Russia is the greatest country.
Debate Round No. 1
danielawesome12

Pro

First Military Strength

Army
Russia has the 4th biggest army while the U.S. is 2nd
http://opishposh.com...

Air Force
Rank 1 - United States Air Force (USA):
http://military-navy-army-airforce.blogspot.com...

2,132 Fighter Aircrafts
Aerial Refueling aircrafts
Attack Aircrafts
Attack Helicopters
Bombers
Cargo transport aircrafts
Cargo helicopters
Electronic Warfare Aircrafts
Ground Attack Aircrafts
Helicopters
450 ICBMs
Multi-mission Aircrafts
Multi-mission RPAs (Remote Piloted Aircraft)
Observation aircrafts
Reconnaissance aircrafts
32 Satellites
Search and Rescue Aircrafts
Special electronic missions aircrafts
Tanker aircrafts
Trainer aircrafts
UAVs
Utility aircrafts
VIP staff transport aircrafts
Weather reconnaissance aircrafts
Special Operations Squadrons Aircrafts
5,573 Total Aircrafts
329,600 Airforce Personnel

Rank 2 - Russian Air Force (RUSSIA):

252 Fighter Aircrafts
Airliner Fixed-wing aircrafts
Airborne Early Warning & Control aircrafts
Air Superiority Fighters
Attack Helicopters
Bombers
Command & Control aircrafts
Ground Attack Aircrafts
Interceptor aircrafts
Reconnaissance aircrafts
Satellites
Strategic Airliners
Strategic Transport Aircrafts
Strike Fighter Aircrafts
Tactical Transport Aircrafts
Training Aircrafts
Training Helicopters
Transport Helicopters
UAVs
Utility Helicopters
VIP Transport aircrafts
4,000 Total Aircrafts
160,000 Airforce Personnel

Navy
http://realitypod.com...
You'll find the U.S. is also 1st

Second Economics
http://en.wikipedia.org...
America has the biggest economy while Russia ranks 10th
JuliusMaximus

Con

Typical American stance, thinking that just because you have the largest army means that your the greatest nation.

First we aought to define greatness.

greatness,noun
Definition of GREATNESS

1 exceptionally high quality

2 the quality or state of being large in size

http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Now, I would say that Russia fits both of these descriptions much better than the United states.

1.History:
Russia is a very historic country, rangeing from the Duchy of Muscovy to the Empire of Russia. It rose to control the largest amount of land of any nation. Russian history sports such prominant people as Peter the Great. In it's history Russia has shown itself to be strong in underdog positions, namely Peter defeating the superior swedish army, and Stalin's forces defeating the vastly superior German army, which drove into russia like a hot knife into butter.

2.Architecture.
Russia has a wide variety of architecture, notably the Moscow Kremlin. This complex is composed of several gold gilded cathedrals, great brick walls, and ancient halls from the days of the Tsar.

3.Art
Russian art is beautiful and unique, it features Matryoshka dolls, amazing icon art, and Russia is famous for it's various dances and dancers.

So in summery, America has a larger army, because it has always followed a Reaganesque policy of through strength, while Russia's military spending has slackened since the cold war.But this doesn't make a country great, not to mention America has very little unique history or architecture.
Debate Round No. 2
danielawesome12

Pro

History:
America was the ultimate underdog in the American Revolutionary War so I don't see that point as valid, in addition America has never lost a war.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Even in Vietnam 1. America never declared a state of war. 2. Americans killed over 1,000,000 Russians and injured 600,000, While Russia killed 58,000 Americans and wounded 300,000. Proving America's armies to be superior.

The Land of the Free
On the Human Development Index, America is ranked 3rd and Russia 55th, just behind Kuwait. The Human Development Index (HDI) is a comparative measure of life expectancy, literacy, education, standards of living, and quality of life for countries worldwide. It is a standard means of measuring well-being, especially child welfare. It is used to distinguish whether the country is a developed, a developing or an underdeveloped country, and also to measure the impact of economic policies on quality of life.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Architecture
On the list of world's largest buildings Russia's largest is 40th
While America has 3rd, 10th, 14th, 23rd, 28th, 35th, and 38th
http://en.wikipedia.org...
In addition America has Hundreds of famous architects.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Art
Every country has a unique culture. Russia's art isn't better.

Economy:
The Cold War (http://en.wikipedia.org...) was the great political battle between Russia and the United States. That dated from 1947 to 1991, there was a sustained state of political and military tension between powers in the Western Bloc, dominated by the United States, and powers in the Eastern Bloc, dominated by the Soviet Union. This began after the success of their temporary wartime alliance against Nazi Germany, leaving the USSR and the US as two superpowers with profound economic and political differences. A neutral faction arose with the Non-Aligned Movement founded by Egypt, India, and Yugoslavia; this faction rejected association with either the US-led West or the Soviet-led East.

The Cold War was so named because the two major powers each possessing nuclear weapons didn't met in direct military combat to insure survival. Instead, in their struggle for global influence they engaged in a economic power-struggle. The tensest times were during the Berlin Blockade (1948"1949), the Korean War (1950"1953), the Suez Crisis (1956), the Berlin Crisis of 1961, the Cuban missile crisis (1962), the Vietnam War (1959"1975), the Yom Kippur War (1973), the Soviet war in Afghanistan (1979"1989), the Soviet downing of Korean Air Lines Flight 007 (1983), and the "Able Archer" NATO military exercises (1983). The conflict was expressed through military coalitions, strategic conventional force deployments, extensive aid to client states, espionage, massive propaganda campaigns, conventional and nuclear arms races, appeals to neutral nations, rivalry at the Olympics, and technological competitions such as the Space Race. The US and USSR became involved in political and military conflicts in the Third World countries of Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia. To avoid the risk of a potential nuclear war, both sides sought relief of political tensions through the 1970s.

In the 1980s, the United States increased diplomatic, military, and economic pressures on the Soviet Union, at a time when the communist state was already suffering from economic stagnation. In the mid-1980s, the new Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev introduced the liberalizing reforms of perestroika ("reorganization", 1987) and glasnost ("openness", ca. 1985). Pressures for national independence grew stronger in Eastern Europe, especially Poland. They reached a breaking point when Gorbachev refused to use Soviet troops to support the faltering government of East Germany in late 1989. Within weeks all the satellite states broke free from Moscow in a peaceful wave of revolutions (there was some violence in Romania). The pressures escalated inside the Soviet Union, where Communism fell and the USSR was formally dissolved in late 1991. The United States remained as the world's only superpower. The Cold War and its events have left a significant legacy, and it is often referred to in popular culture, especially in media featuring the theme of nuclear warfare.
JuliusMaximus

Con

"Even in Vietnam 1. America never declared a state of war. 2. Americans killed over 1,000,000 Russians and injured 600,000, While Russia killed 58,000 Americans and wounded 300,000. Proving America's armies to be superior."

Can you provide a source for this? As far as i know only about 130,000 deaths were inflicted by America in Vietnam, with only 16 of those being Russian.
^ James F. Dunnigan; Albert A. Nofi (2000). Dirty Little Secrets of the Vietnam War: Military Information You're Not Supposed to Know

"On the Human Development Index, America is ranked 3rd and Russia 55th, just behind Kuwait. The Human Development Index (HDI) is a comparative measure of life expectancy, literacy, education, standards of living, and quality of life for countries worldwide. It is a standard means of measuring well-being, especially child welfare. It is used to distinguish whether the country is a developed, a developing or an underdeveloped country, and also to measure the impact of economic policies on quality of life."

Yes, America is high on the human development index.This however, can be attributed to the vast Siberian wilderness and the nomadic peoples who live there. Many Russians, unlike the vast majority of Americans still live in small rural communities. This in many ways has preserved folk culture and prevented Russia from becoming the same monotonous union America has.

"Architecture
On the list of world's largest buildings Russia's largest is 40th
While America has 3rd, 10th, 14th, 23rd, 28th, 35th, and 38th"
Again, must stress quality over quantity or in this case, size. The buildings you mentioned are nothing but giant pillars of steel with no character or culture.

We're talking Russia Vs America not Communism Vs. Capitalism, to assume that Russia is in any sense communist is rather insulting.
Debate Round No. 3
danielawesome12

Pro

danielawesome12 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
danielawesome12

Pro

clearly I won... by skipping a round, all part of meh strategy.
JuliusMaximus

Con

No, this was not part of "meh strategy"[please note, that is a direct quote]. You ran out of bigger better arguments so you forfeited the round, and now your trying to convince us that it was some strategic masterstroke? I don't think so.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by leojm 4 years ago
leojm
Sorry Daniel I have to disagree with you on this one. I'm from Russia. Russia, and America are equally strong. If you know anything about the Cold War it will explain everything. Good luck in this debate. When you are done, I will vote on the things listed. Because I'm sure both of you have a good point.
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