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Is Dokdo Island in the Sea of Japan Korea's or Japan's?

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Started: 10/6/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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FPSKorea1

Pro

I know that many Japanese people say that the Island Dokdo or Takeshima is Korea's, but I would like the challenge the rebels who still believes that Dokdo is Japan's. Bring it on!
peacenik

Con

1) Right now from what I have read, Koreans reside there.
2) For this reason most of the international community will just take the korean stance and claim it belongs to korea
3) A Korean family became the first couple to live there around the 1960's
4) Just because someone goes to a new piece of land and settles there does not mean it is theres e.g americans who settled in USA and killed off the native Americans
5) If the Japanese decide to start a war over it and people started to die, the international community will immediately reconsider and consider the facts.
6) Most westerners would say it is upto the inhabitants of the island to decide whether they want to be part of Japan or Korea. (self determination)
7) Self determination does not apply here because it is not reasonable. For the simple fact that who owns sovereignty here is questionable.
8) This is clearly a grey area and I feel no one is right or wrong and I also feel Koreans are aggressors here and should let uninhabited land be uninhabited and not fight over it for no purpose whatsoever.
Debate Round No. 1
FPSKorea1

Pro

So you take no sides and just think that Dokdo should be no one's land, huh?

Well, I really can't argue with that, EXCEPT I SHALL.
For thousands of years and generations, Dokdo was ancient Korea, Joseon, rightfully owned Dokdo and few islands nearby. Until Japanese unexpectedly attacked and took Dokdo by forces ad started invading Joseon. Joseon's famous hero general who was like George Washington to Koreans right now, Lee Soon Shin, built the first steel-plated battleship in the world and kicked the evil Japanese navy who used Joseon children as their shooting targets FOR FUN and who tortured the poor Joseon people. Than the Japanese knew how strong Joseon can be when they can, so they left Dokdo and Joseon, back to their island. It was like that until 1900s, when the Japanese emperor wanted to take over Asia and forcefully took Dokdo, the Joseon peninsula and part of China. Then they said that Dokdo was owned by Japanese again. It was torturing Joseon people, forcing them to sob because their (the Japanese) leaders died and killed them for fun. After WWII ended and Hiroshima and Nagasaki happened, Japanese returned to their country again and then the Japanese people apologized and told the world that Dokdo is rightfully Korea's and that they are very sorry of what their ancestors did. Japanese schools even teach the students of the cruel and unfair things that the Japanese empire did back then, that's how much they're sorry about what happened. So even Japan agrees, USA agrees and many other countries agree that Dokdo is rightfully owned by Koreans. So why just leave it alone when it's rightfully ours and there's so much natural resources on the island? Japanese people don't care (At least most of them who has common sense) and many other countries don't care. So there's just no reason to leave the healthy island to the nature, Koreans can just have it, it's what they own.
peacenik

Con

1) In situations like this ancient history becomes irrelevant. As facts and history can be manipulated e.g "This old book or map said this, say the Japanese"....and "This old book or map says the Island was Korean..says the Koreans"
2) When there is doubt over who owns unihabited land, i think the best solution is a compromise where they sit down and talk like what the Japanese did with Russians regarding part of Kuril Island "i.e you give us this, in case we take this half" e.t.c
3) Any solution that prevent war is always the best solution, as in wars there in no winners. Only losers.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by smartcat 2 years ago
smartcat
I agree
Pro is right.
Dokdo is Korea's but the history was distorted.
It is definitely Korea's.
Posted by debate-master1 2 years ago
debate-master1
Pro is right.
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