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Conspicuous_Conservative
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kykrebs
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Is George W. Bush is among the worst US Presidents of all times?

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Started: 2/24/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Conspicuous_Conservative

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I would like to thank the person who debates me in this issue for taking their position and providing me with a chance to compare ideas. I would like to also thank the many people I know will be adding their comments and eventually voting. I simply ask if you are going to bad talk president Bush please do so humanely (this is a family friendly debate =) .

I will like to keep the first topic concise so I can see where my opponent wants to take the debate. In this debate I will give a few reasons why I believe that President Bush is among the worst presidents of all times.

I. He has been classified as a conservative and has claimed to run as one despite the fact that he is far from conservative.

a. Fiscally he has increased government spending to almost three times as much as president Clinton who is suppose to be the more Liberal President.

b. Government size, he has increased the role of government during his presidency with the Patriot Act and many other sister bills that have increased the role of the government and the lost of constitutionally protected freedom.

II. Bush has been held high by "Republicans" as being someone strong on the war on terror. This hits home with me because I currently serve in the military and his military based decisions directly effect me.

a. He has fought a poor war. (I am for War in Iraq and eliminating forces quickly). But it seems that we linger around in Iraq to keep the contractors earning money. We could have march through Iraq if we fought this like a real war.

B. President Bush is for an open border which will allow terrorist and other individuals that mean the United States harm free access to our country and the social programs we have.

III. He is not the most articulate president. This is not that big a deal but when people see the leader of one of the most powerful countries having a hard time getting through a speech it is really a testament to how poor our educational system is. Especially when President Bush advocates that immigrants learn English first. Click the following link to see our president in action.

I do not hate the man nor do I feel he is pure evil like many do, I simply feel that through what he has promised as compared to what he has delivered he is in the category of worst three presidents of all time.
kykrebs

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kykrebs forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 1
Conspicuous_Conservative

Pro

Well I thought this was going to be a popular debate with many people jumping at the opportunity to debate this topic. I hate having to respond to nothing but got to reach character limit. I will repost this topic once more.
kykrebs

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kykrebs forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Conspicuous_Conservative

Pro

Due to the 100 character minimum I am forced to write a response for this opponent that hasn't responded yet. Oh well!
kykrebs

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kykrebs forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by GaryBacon 9 years ago
GaryBacon
Hmm. Tough decision. The person who forfeited every single round or the person that didn't forfeit any? Obviously I have to vote for Conspicuous Conservative.
Posted by Chuckles 9 years ago
Chuckles
i don't remember the magazine, it might have been forbes, but they ranked him 21st out of 42 presidents
Posted by nitrogen85 9 years ago
nitrogen85
I don't agree that bush was our worst president. I believe that his un-popularity is mainly due to media, and others who try to smudge his name. It eventually became so popular, even ppeople who knew virtually nothing about bush, or even politics for that matter, began to jump onto the traveling caravan of anti bush insulters. Bush was a good president, despite false and ridiculous accuisations. I would have voted for con, but he failed to debate, so I will not be voting for anyone.
Posted by sadolite 9 years ago
sadolite
The history books will say he freed 25,000,000 people from a brutal dictatorship. Every single President without exception since or first President has been excoriated and ridiculed for doing so. President Bush is no exception and it will be so for all future presidents. Some people don't believe in freedom for all, those are the people that focus on their petty self wants and needs. And when a President doesn't put them at the top of the list, Whala the worst President in history is created. This was said about all the greatest Presidents who put people who lived in tyranny before the welfare state.
Posted by Conspicuous_Conservative 9 years ago
Conspicuous_Conservative
You got that right my friend that is why I re-registered Independent. Because I live in the people's republic of California and my vote doesn't matter I am going to vote Nadar lol
Posted by zander 9 years ago
zander
Myers seemed to be more of a political manuever, or at least a bad attempt at one.

Anyway, Roberts and Alito were solid.

I'm pretty sure Bush's tenure and a McCain victory would shut the door on a quality Republican reputation for a while.
Posted by Conspicuous_Conservative 9 years ago
Conspicuous_Conservative
Very true but remember Hariat Myer so he wasn't the one who should get all the credit, liberals hate him for a variety of obscure reasons and TRUE conservatives don't like him for the many blunders anxious to see what my opponent has to say.
Posted by zander 9 years ago
zander
As a conservative, I can't really back Bush on much. He completely abandoned his campaign platform both times. He nominated great judges, thats about the extent of it. Bush is liberal, I agree.
Posted by Conspicuous_Conservative 9 years ago
Conspicuous_Conservative
I am on the same page as you brother!
Posted by C-Mach 9 years ago
C-Mach
Good God, no kidding! He is a liberal because he has done things that Democrats usually do:

1._ He starts a war (I actually agree with it, though.),

2._ He supports amnesty,

3._ He creates social programs, etc.

Thank goodness I'm not the only one who thinks this!
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