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Is Goku Faster than Superman

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/20/2015 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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anastase9

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So rough estimate here that's 19.2.x 416 Goku moved at 66 m/s with 416 kai so if we use a linear relationship between kai and speed here we should expect his travel speed to be 1,276 m/s at 8000, but in fact it is 5787 m/s indicating power levels aren't linear, but maybe exponential so the value i have for his travel.
Kid Goku's combat speed is FTL. Goku is confirmed to be faster than light when he fought burter and jiece. So how fast are super saiyan 1, 2 , 3, and 4 exactly.
At the battle between Raditz, Piccolo says that Goku is 'faster than the speed of light', which he is faster than. When Raditz power level is 1200 he moves at light speed.
Goku and Vegeta had a power level of 20,000 or so during their first encounter. They are 16x Radditz.

Goku is over 10000 times the speed of light.

So instant = 10000 speed of light? How do you precisely measure the speed of instant transmission?
kingkd

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https://en.wikipedia.org...
"Another one of Superman's signature abilities is his superhuman speed, allowing him to move, react, run and fly faster than the human eye can perceive. It was originally"and famously"classified as being "faster than a speeding bullet," allowing him to catch bullets in mid-air before they hit him, or anyone else. His top speeds have ranged from nearly a hundred miles per hour when he was first created in the 1930s to speeds surpassing the speed of light. His thoughts, perceptions and reflexes are also accelerated to be able to control his actions while moving at high speeds and being able to perceive the world in slow-motion. Superman's running speed has often been shown to be on par with that of The Flash's. (DC Comics even published a "limited collector's edition" titled Superman Vs. The Flash in the 1970s, whose content it promoted as "The Greatest Race Of All Time!" The two actual stories told within it reprinted a Superman story titled "Superman's Race With The Flash"[volume & issue needed] and a story about The Flash titled "The Race To The End Of The Universe"[volume & issue needed] that also involved the entire Justice League of America. Both races ended in dead heats.) Wally West said he was initially slower than Superman until overcoming his anxiety over succeeding Barry Allen and fully mastering the speed force. He describes Superman as running over two thousand miles per second.[16] In Superman: Red Son he claimed to be able to move faster than ten times the speed of thought."

Superman travelled from Pluto to Earth in 2 seconds, far faster than the speed of light.

http://www.screwattack.com...

"On top of his speed, Superman's reflexes and reaction time are beyond measurement. In the JLA comics, Batman says that Superman can perceive things happening with zeptosecond precision. Nanosecond = one billionth of a second. Zeptosecond = one sextillionth of a second. To save Lois Lane, he read and memorized every medical text ever published (a number ranging in the hundreds of thousands, each book anywhere from 500-5000 pages long) and performed surgery single-handedly with his heat vision to save her life...all in under five minutes.

His brain obviously works faster than any supercomputer could ever hope to. This adds to his reaction speed. But I know what you're saying. Goku is still faster with the 1,000,000,000 factor you gave him. Well, here's a Superman feat after becoming supercharged...

In All-Star Superman, the Man of Steel raced to Alpha Centauri and back within seconds just to pick flowers for Lois before she finished her sentence to him. Now, Alpha Centauri is 4.367 light years away from Earth. Superman went there and back (8.734 light years) in 20 seconds. How do I know it was 20 seconds? Well, using the animated film (since in the comic, it was a single panel), I timed the second he was offscreen to the second he reappeared onscreen, which turned out to be 20 seconds long.

Now...how fast did he have to be going to get to Alpha Centauri, pick flowers, and get back in 20 seconds? Let's do the math...

If Superman traveled 8.734 light years, then he traveled 513,428,174,000,000 miles (513.4 trillion miles). If we divide that number by 20 (the time it took him to get there and back) then he was traveling at a speed of 25,671,409,000,000 miles per second (25.6 trillion miles per second). That's 92,417,072,400,000,000 miles per hour (92.4 quadrillion miles per hour).

And that's 137,809,097 times the speed of light. Not to mention, he can vibrate his molecules so fast that he can vibrate through anything."

Based off this "analysis" of comics Superman is indeed much faster.

This whole debate is stupid debating comic book characters honestly I'm just doing it because you will forfeit
Debate Round No. 1
anastase9

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Debate Round No. 2
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by BetteMidler 1 year ago
BetteMidler
Debating comic book characters isn't stupid. Arguing about nerdy stuff is part of the fun of being a nerd, and it doesn't mean you don't also care about more serious things. Kingkd is just condescending.
Posted by SNP1 1 year ago
SNP1
As screw attack said:
Goku can overcome any limit.
Superman has no limits.
This means that Superman will always beet Goku UNLESS it is in a topic that Goku is DEFINED to be better than Superman at.
Posted by Berend 1 year ago
Berend
Did you not see Superman fly from where Pluto was to Earth in like two seconds. It takes light 4.6 hours to go from Pluto to Earth. Superman is far faster than 10,000x the speed of light.
Posted by SM2 1 year ago
SM2
10,000 x light speed W76; 3 x 10^12 m/s

Superman has beaten that many times.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
instant transmission
Posted by NikolaGustav 1 year ago
NikolaGustav
Goku has limits and Superman does not. That's why Goku is more interesting than Superman. That's also why Goku could never beat Superman at anything.
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