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Is Islam a religion of terrorism

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Mariamahmed

Con

Islam is not a religion of terrorism.
Terrorism relating to Islam is a stereotype that all Muslims kill but it is not. It is just a stereotype. Yes, there are Muslims who kill, but they are just a few people in a religion of 1.8 BILLION Muslims. In fact, the terrorists are not even doing it for other Muslims. One example is when the Taliban shot Malala Yousafzai. Malala is a Muslim and the Taliban were attacking a "fellow" Muslim. In addition, ISIS killed Muslims in Syria (128 civilians), when instead they could have attacked other, Non-Muslims.

"But other than just groups of people, Islam as a whole is not terrorism. Many people point out that in certain ayahs of the Koran, Muslims are encouraged to kill Non-Muslims.
At the time the Koran was revealed (7th century A.D.), there was no United Nations or Amnesty International to keep the peace or expose injustice. Inter-tribal violence and vengeance was commonplace. As a matter of survival, one must have been willing to defend against aggression from all sides. Nevertheless, the Koran repeatedly urges forgiveness and restraint, and warns believers not to "transgress" or become "oppressors." Some examples:

If anyone slays a person
- unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land -
it would be as if he slew all people.
And if anyone saves a life,
it would be as if he saved the life of all people.
Koran 5:32

Invite all to the way of your Lord
with wisdom and beautiful preaching.
And argue with them
in ways that are best and most gracious...
And if you punish,
let your punishment be proportional
to the wrong that has been done to you.
But if you show patience, that is indeed the best course.
Be patient, for your patience is from God.
And do not grieve over them,
or distress yourself because of their plots.
For God is with those who restrain themselves,
and those who do good.
Koran 16:125-128

Oh you who believe!
Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to God,
even against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin,
and whether it be against rich or poor,
for God can best protect both.
Follow not the cravings of your hearts, lest you swerve,
and if you distort justice or decline to do justice,
verily God is well acquainted with all that you do.
Koran 4:135

The recompense for an injury
is an injury equal thereto (in degree),
but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation,
his reward is due from God,
for God loves not those who do wrong.
But indeed, if any do help and defend themselves
after a wrong done to them,
against such there is no cause of blame.
The blame is only against those who oppress men
with wrongdoing and insolently transgress
beyond bounds through the land,
defying right and justice.
For such there will be a penalty grievous (in the Hereafter).
But indeed, if any show patience and forgive,
that would truly be an affair of great resolution.
Koran 42:40-43

Goodness and evil are not equal.
Repel evil with what is better.
Then that person with whom there was hatred,
may become your intimate friend!
And no one will be granted such goodness
except those who exercise patience and self-restraint,
none but people of the greatest good fortune.
Koran 41:34-35"

I apologize for copying and pasting such a large portion, but I feel it really connects to the argument.

"The prohibited month - for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited - There is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves." Holy Koran 2:194

Many people, leave out the last sentence where it advises restraint. Before that, however, it is talking about the events at the time. Muslims were tortured, killed. Here are some examples:

"In the early days of Islam at Mecca, the new Muslims were often subjected to abuse and persecution by the pagan Makkans (often called Mushrikin: the unbelievers or polytheists). Some were killed, such as Sumayyah bint Khabbab, the seventh convert to Islam, who was allegedly tortured first by Amr ibn Hishām.[1][2] Even the Islamic Prophet Muhammad was subjected to such abuse; while he was praying near the Kaaba, Aqaba Bin Muiitt threw the entrails of a sacrificed camel over him. Abu Lahab's wife Umm Jamil would regularly dump filth outside his door and placed thorns in the path to his house.[3]

Accordingly, if free Muslims were attacked, slaves who converted were subjected to far worse. The master of the Ethiopian Bilal ibn Rabah (who would become the first muezzin) would take him out into the desert in the boiling heat of midday and place a heavy rock on his chest, demanding that he forswear his religion and pray to the polytheists' gods and goddesses, until Abu Bakr bought him and freed him.[4][5]"

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); But if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: For Allah is oft forgiving, most merciful." 9:5

"When war becomes inevitable, it must be prosecuted with vigor. According to the English phrase,
you cannot fight with kid gloves. The fighting may take the form of slaughter, or capture, or siege,
or ambush and other stratagems. But even then there is room for repentance and amendment on the
part of the guilty party, and if that takes place, our duty is forgiveness and establishment of peace.
The repentance must be sincere, and that is shown by conduct - a religious spirit of true prayer and
charity. In that case we are not to bar the gate against the repentant. On the contrary we must do all
we can to make their way easy, remembering that Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful."

*if you have any more ayahs, you would like to point out (I am aware there are a few more but I have run out of space), please do so.

*I strongly advise you look at the links

*When it says Allah, it is referring to the Islamic God.

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wmickas

Pro

Thank you for the chance to debate. The question before us is "Is Islam a religion of terrorism?" I agree that there are tons of stereotypes relating to Muslims and their connection with terrorism. Not all Muslims are terrorist and just because someone converts to Islam means that they will automatically become violent. Instead of furthering the stereotypes, lets examine whether or not the terrorists who identify with Islam are acting consistent with with their professed religion. In this debate, I will cite from both the Qur'an and authentic Hadith both of which are essential to Islam. Lets examine the Qur'an first.
Question 1: How do Muslims view themselves according to the Qur'an?
Surah 3:110 "You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah . If only the People of the Scripture had believed, it would have been better for them. Among them are believers, but most of them are defiantly disobedient."

Question 2: How do Muslims view people who do not believe in Islam?
Surah 98:6"Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures."

Question 3: Are Muslims commanded to fight those who disbelieve?
There are several places we can go to in the Qur'an for this.
Surah 9:5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Surah 9:29- 33 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him. They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.
Surah 9:73O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.
Surah 9:111 Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.
Surah 48:19 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.

Question 4: Can Muslims be friends with unbelievers?
Pikthall Surah 5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

Lets examine the Hadith.
What type of Jihad is best according to Muhammad?
It was narrated that Amr bin Abasah said: I came to the Prophet and said: "O Messenger of Allah, which Jihad is best? He said:"(That of a man) whose blood is shed and his horse is wounded. Sunan Ibn Majah 2794
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." Sahih Al Bukhari 1:2:26

So from our examination from these Muslim sources, we learn that the best form of Jihad is violent, the Jews, Christians and anyone who rejects Allah and Muhammad are the worst of creatures and we are commanded to fight them. This is exactly what these terrorists do. I now give my opponent the chance to answer and then I will give my rebuttals.
Debate Round No. 1
Mariamahmed

Con

Hello, and thank you for responding. You gave multiple excerpts of the Quran and I shall explain each one.

#3:110
"You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah . If only the People of the Scripture had believed, it would have been better for them. Among them are believers, but most of them are defiantly disobedient."
This just shows the belief that Islam is a superior religion. It is not incriminating or relatable to terrorism. It is as if someone says Christianity is the true religion or Buddhism is the true religion. In addition, it cannot be degrading to other religions as it says, MOST of them are defiantly disobedient. Most is not all.

98:6
In this section, it is talking about the polytheists who tortured Muslims. This was a guarantee for suffering Muslims that the polytheists who were torturing Muslims would face the consequences of their crimes. Keep in mind, it does not say Non-Muslims, but rather polytheists.

9:5- I already answered this which leads me to believe you didn't read what I said, but I will repeat it
"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); But if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: For Allah is oft forgiving, most merciful." 9:5
"When war becomes inevitable, it must be prosecuted with vigor. According to the English phrase,
you cannot fight with kid gloves. The fighting may take the form of slaughter, or capture, or siege,
or ambush and other stratagems. But even then there is room for repentance and amendment on the
part of the guilty party, and if that takes place, our duty is forgiveness and establishment of peace.
The repentance must be sincere, and that is shown by conduct - a religious spirit of true prayer and
charity. In that case we are not to bar the gate against the repentant. On the contrary we must do all
we can to make their way easy, remembering that Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful."

Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
Does this verse stop at fight? No it doesn't. It continues and gives the actual reason as to the fighting. This is the continuation: " "until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued".
PAYING JIZYA IS THE CONDITION FOR FIGHTING. THIS STATEMENT IS TOTALLY IGNORED OR OVERLOOKED WHEN LEVYING THIS ALLEGATION OF VIOLENCE ON MUSLIMS.
This verse doesn"t ask the Muslims to do mindless slaughter as the media portrays or deceives. It gives the Muslims the permission to fight only those non-Muslims who do not pay jizya " the state tax. And we all know that jizya is applicable only in an Islamic state. Neither India, nor US or Britain are Islamic states. So to put this verse as an excuse for what happened there only shows how biased, unknowledgable and unfair the media is and it hurts us deeply.Again, the verse permits the muslims to fight the non "muslims in an islamic state ONLY and ONLY if they refuse to pay the jizya " Willingly . Re-read the verse from ANY translation if you are not sure. But once they pay the jizya tax they can continue to believe in their atheistic pagan beliefs, but it will be under an Islamic state. You can still forgive them by not forcing them into Islam, nor oppressing them or being bad to them because of their wrong beliefs.
3. QURAN NEVER SAYS TO KILL THE DISBELIEVERS JUST BECAUSE THEY DISBELIEVE.
This is not to you brother coz I consider you as a truly respectable friend. To others who read this article " I openly challenge you to show me ONE verse from the Quran which says to kill the disbelievers just because they are disbelievers. There are verses which permit the Muslims to fight and kill non-Muslims. But every time sensible and reasonable conditions are laid. I can show you all verses from other religious scriptures where slaughtering is done for reasons that are as silly and stupid as honor, glory and greatness. Sometimes for fun too. Wait till the end of the article to have a sample.
4. JIZYA ISN"T A RANSOM OR A BAD THING
Coming back to the verse, now people might say isn"t it unfair that they have to pay the jizya tax? Not really. Since when is punishment for refusal to pay lawful taxes considered as terrorism? Also, the jizya tax is very cheap and affordable, and it grants the non-Muslim"s many benefits, benefits which even the Muslims don"t get! For instance, the non-Muslims who are paying jizya in an Islamic state are not obliged to take part in any battle or war, unless they themselves choose to, the Muslims do not have this choice. Muslims have to actually burn their asses out to protect both Muslims and non-Muslims living in their lands. Also if the Islamic state cannot grant protection to the non-Muslims then the non-Muslims are not obliged to pay the jizya tax, since Muslims themselves must meet expectations for the jizya tax to be implemented. Also, Society today has no problem in paying taxes to the government, so therefore they should have no problem in paying a tax in an Islamic state either.
There you go my friend, verse 9:29 doesn"t encourage the muslims to do terrorism. It is a perfectly fair and just verse.

9:73- (not 9:730)
Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.
When the above verse says, "strive hard against the unbelievers", this refers to the expedition of Tabuk, which Prophet Muhammed (p) and his Companions took part in. The Byzantine (Roman) Empire at the time prepared to attack the Muslim community in Arabia. Prophet Muhammed (p) when he heard of this, he got the Muslims ready to engage the enemy.

9:111
*Sorry, I didn't post the ayah, i only have 400 characters left.
In a war, there is killing involved in both sides. There were many battles during this time. When it says fight in the cause of Allah, it is saying to fight for your religion. Kill, if you must, for your religion. Even in American History, British wanted freedom of religion. Allah is saying to fight for your freedom, and there will be casualties, but in a war for the freedom of religion, there will be killing and death.

48:19
Forceful is not equivalent to killing. Forceful's definition is: strong and assertive; vigorous and powerful. It is not promoting terrorism.

Surah 5:51
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
You got the ayah wrong. It is not friends, it is allies. There is a large difference. Allies are: to unite formally, as by treaty, league, marriage, or the like (usually followed by with or to): to unite formally, as by treaty, league, marriage, or the like (usually followed by with or to):Key word: formally. It means do not go to war alongside them, because there could be spies and betrayal.

Sahih Al Bukhari 1:2:26
Notice that is says that of a man whose blood is shed. It doesn't say kill. Even a small cut could mean that blood is being shed. If anything, this hadith is supporting me. It is not asking for slaughter or murder, only that blood is spilled

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wmickas

Pro

Thank you for responding.
I agree that Surah 3:110 does not incriminate Islam. I was pointing this out because I was comparing how Muslims are viewed according to the Qur'an vs how the non believers are viewed according to the Qur'an

Surah 98:6 let me quote the verse again. "Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures." This refers to two groups of people namely, the people of the scripture and polytheists. The people of the scriptures is one of the names that the Qur'an gives to Jews and Christians. These two parties belong in hell and they are the worst of creatures. Up until verse 6 of chapter 98 it talks about disbelievers doing certain things such as not worshiping Allah or paying Zakat. If you read verse 6 in light of the previous verses, you will see that they are the worst of creatures that belong in hell because they do not practice the 5 pillars of Islam. Verse 7 says that people who do practice righteous deeds as mentioned in the previous verses are the best of creatures. Again Muslims (best of creatures) vs nonMuslims (worst of creatures).

Surah 9:5 Even giving you your interpretation, the terrorists believe that they are acting consistently with this interpretation. Osama Binladen for example, names several political motives for his attack on the World Trade Center. One of these reasons is the United States support of Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org... Many people who stand with the Palestinians against Israel believe that the Israel is committing atrocities in that disputed area and thus this is wartime.

Surah 9:29 The Jizya is not just a state tax Wikipedia talks about how the Jizya is a tax intended specifically towards non-Muslims. "Jizya or jizyah (Arabic: جزيةR06; 07;izya IPA: [dA8;izja]; Ottoman Turkish: جزيهR06; cizye) is a per capita yearly tax historically levied by Islamic states on certain non-Muslim subjects"dhimmis"permanently residing in Muslim lands under Islamic law." So what does the verse say in this light? "Fight those who do not believe in Allah nor the last day nor hold that forbidden what had been forbidden by Allah and his messenger until they pay the tax that is intended for nonmuslims and feel themselves subdued. " The following verses tell us why we are commanded to fight. We are commanded to fight them because of what they believe and what they preach.

Surah 9:73 agreed

Surah 9:111 "Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment." Allah has promised paradise for Muslims and because of this Muslims kill and are killed. So Muslims kill and are killed because of a religious reason which is to be in paradise.

Surah 48:19 I agree that this by itself does not support terrorism but if you read this in the light of all the other verses I quoted, then it would make sense.

Surah 5:51 It depends on which translation you are quoting from. Like the Bible, there are several English translations of the Qur'an. I was using the Pikthall translation of this verse.

Sahih Al Bukhari 1:2:26 You answered my Sunan Ibn Majah quotation but I'll give you a pass. Notice that the type of Jihad or struggle involves fighting and getting your blood shed and his horse is wounded this could be interpreted as going to war for maybe a religious purpose and getting wounded in the midst of it.

I'll give my opponent the chance to respond.
Debate Round No. 2
Mariamahmed

Con

9:86
"Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures."
I will restate what I said.
In this section, it is talking about the polytheists who tortured Muslims. This was a guarantee for suffering Muslims that the polytheists who were torturing Muslims would face the consequences of their crimes. In addition, the debate is "Is Islam a Religion of Terrorism." but heaven and hell have nothing to do with terrorism. In addition you said that the Quran is saying Muslims are the best of creatures and Non- Muslims are the worst. Anyone can say that about anything. For example, many Christians say that Christianity is the supreme religion (link 1-3).
Titus 1:15 (KJV)
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
The bible is saying that those who do not believe are impure.

Surah 9:5-
Even giving you your interpretation, the terrorists believe that they are acting consistently with this interpretation.
I understand what you are saying but this just proves that the terrorists are not true Muslims. They do not understand the Quran and if they really believed that the Quran supports their actions (which it doesn't), they would have looked deeper into this ayah. I am young and I have the time to look into this, so why can't they. Probably because they want an excuse to kill and they used Islam as that excuse (probably because of a personal vendetta against a Muslim). And even though the US supports Israel. You said "Many people who stand with the Palestinians against Israel believe that the Israel is committing atrocities in that disputed area and thus this is wartime." I stand with the Palestinians but I do not believe any time is wartime. Neither do many of my Palestinian friends. Either way, war is not terrorism. If ISIS wanted war, they would have declared it already. You said my interpretation was correct which proves that Allah's message, The Quran has nothing to do with ISIS. If ISIS or Osama Bin Laden misinterprets the Quran, you can hardly blame it on the Quran or Islam.

9:29
Muslims had been tortured in Makkah, so they fled to Medina. In Medina, there were many Muslims but also some tribes that were Non- Muslim, such as Banu Qurayza. After the Muslims won the Battle of Badr. Banu Qurayza was upset at them for winning. They wanted the Muslims to lose, so they could have Medina, but they already had a peace treaty with Muhammad. Banu Qurayza started writing satirical poems about Muhammad and this hate all started because Muhamamd was of another race. The treaty said they could not ally with enemies of the Muslims such as the Quraish (the opponents in the Battle of Badr), but they did later. The last straw was pulled A woman from the Ansar of Madinah went to the shop of a Jewish jeweler to buy something; her face was covered. The Jews tried to make her open her face; however, the woman insisted on having her face covered. Meanwhile, a Jewish person secretly attached a thorn to the bottom part of her dress. When the woman stood up to leave, her dress was pulled and her legs were seen. The Jewish people who were there started to laugh at her. The woman screamed. When a Muslim who was passing by heard the scream, he intervened to help the woman. The Muslim and the Jew started to fight. The Muslim killed the Jew. Then, the other Jews who were there swooped down on the Muslim and martyred him. (1) Thus, blood was shed between Jews and Muslims. The ones that caused the incident were the Jews. They violated the treaty by acting against the promises that had made. Even after that, Muhammad gave them another chance, but they didn't take it. In addition, this is when this ayah was passed.
"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. (7) And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust." (8)
Instead of killing more Jews, Muhammad expelled them from Madinah. The point of this is the Muslims were being harassed by the Jews, but they still let them stay as long as they payed a fine. The last straw was pulled after many other complaints of them breaking the treaty. Muhammad was letting them live peacefully in Madinah even though it hurt others.

9:111-
The fights in the cause of Allah are not terrorism, but rather war. If there is a war, then Allah is permitting you to kill. (On other circumstances, killing is prohibited). Terrorism has caused innocents to die. That is not what the Quran is saying. The Quran is saying if someone insults your affiliation with Allah, then to call for war or battle, in which everyone is armed and prepared to kill or be killed. Terrorism kills innocents which is a sin in Islam. Allah has already made clear that those who kill will be punished:
1. Qur"an 6:151 says, "and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully." (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted).
2. 5:53 says, "" whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind."
3. "The Cow," 2:190, says, "Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors."
4. 8,61 "But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.
5. "Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: "I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . " (Malik"s Muwatta", "Kitab al-Jihad.")

48:19-
It is saying to be assertive and strong- willed, it has nothing to do with terrorism no matter what the other ayahs are.

5:51-
I understand, but look at the 9:29 backstory. (It is also the story of this verse)

1:2:26-
As I said before, Osama bin Laden and ISIS may interpret it wrong, but the Quran should not be accused of supporting terrorism because of an incorrect interpretation. The topic is 'Is Islam a Religion of Terrorism." but then it isn't Islam that is promoting terrorism, it is whatever ISIS created out of thin air, based of a small part of an ayah of the Quran.

Thank you for participating in this debate. I was very glad you had a reasonable point of view. No matter who wins or loses this debate, I would like you to know that most Muslims mean no harm and not to judge a person by their religion. If you have any questions, even about Islam, you can message me on debate.org. And you did an amazing job on your debate and research! Good Luck!

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wmickas

Pro

Thank you for responding
Surah 98:6 The way you view a certain group of people will determine what actions you use towards those individuals. If you believe the polytheists, Jews and Christians are the worst of creatures worthy of hell, then you will take some harsh actions towards these individuals. I have said that not one specific verse in the Qur'an supports terrorism but if you ask questions to see if a worldview is consistent with the acts of terrorism, like how does the holy book view the people that these terroristic acts are directed towards or does this holy book teach its followers to fight the people that terrorists are associated with fighting? The Bible verse you quoted is commits the fallacy of Tu Quo Que.

Surah 9:5
You have said that the terrorists interpret Surah 9:5 wrong. You have said that this verse would apply in war time and I have showed that the terrrorists believe that they are in the context of war because of the American support for Israel. You also said that this would prove that the terrorists are not true Muslims. My question for you would be is what other criteria for being a Muslim is there besides the believing the shahada (there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger)? I agree that not every one who stands with Palestine against Israel believe that this is war time but we must agree that this would be one of the reasons for war as Osama Bin Laden would say.

Surah 9:29
This would be a defense that many Muslims use against Surah 9:5. I do admit that I have not studied this in any depth but it seems that the breaking of the treaty was that a recent convert to Islam formed a group of other converts and attacked a caravan thus the first blood was shed by a Muslim. https://sunnah.com...

Surah 9:111 I agree but as I said the terrorists believe that they in the context of war. The question I would have for you is is there any criteria for insulting your affiliation with Allah because the insults can be as minor as an internet troll making childish insults.

Surah 48:19 I understand but if you read it in light of even the sample verses I have given to you, you will see that this could be included as supporting terroristic act.

5:51 refer back to my response on 9:29

1:2:26 I came to this question by asking would the acts that terrorists are committing be consistent with the early Muslim sources and holy book

I likewise thank you for participating in this debate. I liked the thoughtful responses that you gave and the fruitful discussion. I think this is very important because there are not many who would discuss this topic but would just make blanket responses like "Islam is a religion of peace" or "Islam is a religion of terrorism" and giving no evidence for their claims. Their responses to their critic are emotional rather than logical. I hope in the future people would feel more comfortable with discussions like this.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by wmickas 6 months ago
wmickas
I was wondering if you want to debate the trinity or deity of Christ next if you are a muslim
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