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Mothman
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adbo
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Is Jesus still alive?

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Mothman
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/28/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Mothman

Con

First round is to accept this debate only

Second Round is for opening arguments

third round is for rebuttals

Fourth round is for second Rebuttals

Fifth round is for conclusion

I will be taking the Con side of the argument

may the best man/woman win, inshallah ameen
adbo

Pro

Jesus is still alive because he exists in all the hearts of people that have accepted him
Debate Round No. 1
Mothman

Con

Jesus is forever dead.

He died just like every mortal dies.

First of all Jesus was not God, because is immaterial and all powerful, Jesus was a finite human being and never claimed to be God. He never says in the bible I am God worship me.

When he is on the cross he says, "My God, My God why hast thou forsaken me!" (Matthew 27:46)

He doesn't say, "Oh Me oh My why have I forsaken myself?"

This proves he is not God, because he is referring to some other entity as God.

Jesus also can't be the son of God, because God does not have sex and does not have babies.

So this means Jesus was a human not a god, therefore he had to die.

Now Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) proved that Jesus did not die on the cross, but survived Crucifixion and migrated to India and died in Kashmir.

Jesus couldn't have died on the cross, because he was on it for only a few hours, and it takes days to die on the cross

the other two people crucified were still alive, and the soldiers had to break their legs to kill them,

but they did not break the bones of Jesus, (John 19:33)

They instead pierced his side and blood and water came out (John 19:34) This proves Jesus was alive, because dead people don't bleed, and this shows his hears was still beating.

Jesus was alive the whole time, he did not die, so he couldn't have been raised from the dead.

Jesus later ate food after his so called Resurrection (Luke 24:42-43)

Dead bodies don't eat so how could Jesus have eaten food and been hungry if he was a resurrected dead man?

The Bible also says that dead people are raised as spirits (1 Corinthians 15:44)

Jesus denies he was a spirit (Luke 24:39)

proving he was not raised from the dead but was alive.

That is what the bible says

The Quran says that all prophets before Muhammad (saw) have passed away (Quran 3:144-145)

So Jesus has to be dead according to both scriptures

what does science and history show?

Jesus died in Kashmir, yes his body is right there, and you can go and see it.

https://www.alislam.org...

https://www.alislam.org...

http://news.bbc.co.uk...

http://www.tombofjesus.com...

http://www.jesus-in-india-the-movie.com...

I hope the links prove that Jesus died in Kashmir

and if Con wants he can did up that grave and he will see it is Jesus and it will prove that Jesus is forever dead.

And since Jesus did die in Kashmir, he is forever dead and is not alive, Alhumdulillah Ameen
adbo

Pro

adbo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Mothman

Con

Well appears that Pro has forfeited his opening statement argument, I will give him a chance in this round for a Rebuttal, but I am glad that Pro can see the evidence is strong that Jesus is forever dead, ameen
adbo

Pro

adbo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Mothman

Con

It appears Pro has forfeited again, I guess the evidence and fact that Jesus is forever dead is too overwhelming ameen, Alhumdulillah
adbo

Pro

adbo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Mothman

Con

Well in conclusion, Pro has forfeited this debate because the evidence is too strong that Jesus is dead Alhumdulillah

Vote Con
adbo

Pro

adbo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Mothman 2 years ago
Mothman
He was only on the cross for a few hours, it takes days to die on a cross, and they didn't break his bones, and when they pierced his side, blood and water came out, that is a sign that he was alive, because his heart must have been beating in order for him to bleed like that.

And anyways after the so called resurrection he ate food, dead people don't eat food, this proves he was alive,

I will present more reasons in my debate,

P.S. he was crucified but he didn't die on the cross, he had the wounds, and they came with him to Kashmir.
Posted by thesupporter 2 years ago
thesupporter
scratch that how can a person survive a crucifiction?
Posted by thesupporter 2 years ago
thesupporter
It could have been another crucified man. Also you said he wasn't crucified aren't you contradicting yourself?
Posted by Mothman 2 years ago
Mothman
Also the people of Kashmir are related to the jews, they are the decedents of the lost tribes of Israel, and the way Jesus' tomb is buried, it is buried the way a Jew's would be.

Also there are footprints with holes in them indicating a crucified man

Read Among Lost Sheep for more information also
Posted by Mothman 2 years ago
Mothman
No but many people have seen it and you can go see it for yourself,

http://www.tombofjesus.com...

Read the Promised Messiah (as)/Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) book to see more proof on why it is the tomb of Jesus,

Read Jesus in India by him, and you will see the truth

http://www.alislam.org...
Posted by thesupporter 2 years ago
thesupporter
Have you seen it yourself? Can you prove that that is his real body or is it just another mans body
Posted by Mothman 2 years ago
Mothman
I can prove he is dead though, he is buried in Kashmir.
Posted by thesupporter 2 years ago
thesupporter
Tru dat pro
Posted by oculus_de_logica 2 years ago
oculus_de_logica
Erm, this is bit of a truism. How would someone argue that Jesus is still alive?
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Reasons for voting decision: I'm pretty sure that during open-heart surgery, that Jesus does not pop out. Con, you needed to integrate your links into your arguments, not just post them here and tell people to go and read them.