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Is Medea responsible for the death of her children?

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Started: 5/5/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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janiris06

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1.Both parties agree to the specific definitions of conscience, revenge and anger. Conscience being defined as the complex of ethical and moral principles that controls/inhibits the actions or thoughts of an individual; the inner sense of what is right or wrong.
2.Revenge defined as the opportunity to retaliate or gain satisfaction by something done in vengeance.
3.Anger also being defined as a strong feeling of displeasure and belligerence aroused by a wrong; wrath.
4.In Medea"s tragic story, she is responsible for the death of her children because she let her anger take control of her self-conscience. Which she should have never let that happen in the first place, concerning to Seneca sense of anger.
5.In regards to the last premise: Seneca was a philosopher that claimed that nothing is useful in anger. That anger is something that a person can control, but its manipulative desire over rules and controls us.
6.She is guilty for the reason of sacrificing two innocent boys of her own, out of revenge and anger. This is a severe sin and unmoral act.
7.Medea is also wrong because the death of those boys didn"t gain anything it was more of a lost for both her and her ex-husband Jason. But for Medea it was a necessary evil and she needed to gain that pleasure.
8.Medea is a women who had lost her common sense within the wrath of anger and revenge. Feeling that it was a necessary evil to kill her two boys because it was the only punishment that fitted to the level of the betrayal her ex-husband had done to her.
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9.Therefore, Medea is responsible for the death of her two sons and it does not exempt her from being beyond the bound of an inhumane person.

Non-Controversial Premises:
-Premises 1 through 3 because both parties agreed on the definitions concerning on the topic of the debate.
-Premises 6 is non-controversial because no one has the right to take anyone life away.
-Premises 7 and 8 are non-controversial because it explains Medea"s intentions more detailed and it is background information of why she is guilty for murdering both of her sons.

Controversial Premises:
-Premises 4 and 5 are controversial because anger can be used in many different forms and in my case Seneca views anger negative. There are people that may not agree on that anger is not useful, clearly by view anger in another perspective.
Aviana

Con

1.I agree with the both the definitions of conscience, revenge, and anger as defined in both premises 1 and 2.
4. In this premise you stated that Medea let her anger control her when really it was the hurt she experienced from the abandonment of her ex-husband that was the influence for her actions. In the story of Medea she makes it clear that it is not something that she wanted to do, but something she had to do in order to allow her ex-husband to hurt the same way she did. She loved her kids and didn"t want to take their life, but the circumstances she was under didn"t allow for her love for them to shine through.
5. I agree with those ideas of anger from Seneca, but I do not think it completely applies to this situation. Medea makes it clear that she is trying to protect her children from those that may cause harm to them because of all the wrong she"s done by trying to get back at her ex-husband. She takes this loss in trying to protect them.
6 &7. As you stated in premises 6 and 7, you feel as though Medea sacrificed her children out of revenge and anger and to satisfy her own pleasures of revenge. The reality is that she had already gotten her revenge on her ex-husband Jason by taking the life of the King and his daughter who was once his wife also. The sacrifice of her children was for them as Medea states in her story. She endured a lot of hurt and pain felt from her ex-husband that she could no longer allow to affect her children because she knew that her troubles would soon take a toll on them.
9. Therefore, in saying this Medea is not responsible for the death of her two sons because of her intentions. She had intentions of revenge but realized that it was in their best interest to protect them from their surroundings.
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