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Edlvsjd
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Is NASA lying to us?

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Edlvsjd
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/5/2016 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Edlvsjd

Pro

NASA lies.
the_monster

Con

Give me examples of this "lying", and let's see if you can prove that you are right.
Debate Round No. 1
Edlvsjd

Pro

Thanks for accepting, I ask that you approach this information with unbiased eyes, in other words try to forget everything you've learned at this point, the first day of school we learned a few things one plus one equals two our ABCs, and the earth is a globe. Talk about indoctrination. The first two are fairly Elementary, but have you ever seen the earth from the moon? The teachers never saw the Earth from the moon, their bosses never saw it. In this debate I will prove that NASA has, beyond a shadow of a doubt, lied to us at least one time, one time is all it takes because if they would lie to us once they would lie to us about a lot of other things.
Photos
I will prove that at least one or more of NASA's photos are faked, and it will be assumed, given the circumstances, that all are faked as well. There are no actual photos of Earth in existence. There are a few composites, a painting or two, and some cgi. With the thousands of satellites out there, shouldn't there be hundreds or thousands of them by now. They supposedly (8) had the technology to do it in the 60's!


In this comparison, America has over doubled in size. Proof one.(1)(2)
Blatant copying and pasting of cloud formations. Proof two.(3)

The word "sex" in cloud formations, really? My 8 year old brought this home on the cover of her dictionary. Proof three.(4) I suppose it could happen after all there must be photographs somewhere on the internet of full words in clouds. Wait, I found one!


I'm sorry, that was uncalled for.


NASA claims it has a hand full of actual photos of earth, but not one of them show a trace of any of the thousands of satellites said to be in orbit at varying heights around the earth.(5) You would think, that with that many giant pieces of aluminum, baler wire, duct tape, and tinfoil flying around the world, some of them would reflect some light back to the camera with the sun at the cameras back. How many real pictures of these satellites do we have? Close to none, if any.
Recent photos of pluto show that NASA at least has a sense of humor about lying to us.(6)
In this photo, earth is relatively small, considering earth is 4 Times bigger than the moon. Common sense says if he were actually on the moon, the earth would appear 4 times bigger than the moon appears from earth.



The most damming evidence is the fake videos from inside and around the iss, when humans get in the picture.
Multiple bubbles seem to come out from places. Are they actually in a giant pool?
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swim kicking...

don't worry about that toolbox, the scuba divers will pick it up off the green screen after the show. Note how it drops to a certain point and stops.




And little slip ups like saying you are filming in the US...(7) you can see how the other two give him a "hey, that wasn't in the script!" look.


these guys are simply hanging upside down! Check out those red faces.
Van Allen belt
The van Allen belt has proBen to be a real problem for NASA as some high altitude travellers have described seeing flicks of light behind their eyelids when getting close to it, although the lunar flights had no idea about it. Extremely high levels of radiation requiring lead shielding in order for the astronots to survive.(7)
The moon.
More and more people are filming what is referred to as lunar waves (10)on the moon. These can only be described as lines you see when looking at security camera footage of another screen. The lines start at the top of the moon or bottom, or to from side to side.
This has not been observed anywhere else in nature. Does that mean the moon is a hologram? A rear projection screen? I don't know, but it looks cool as f! I haven't found any explanations for this phenomenon, official or not. But it definitely prooves NASA is lying about the moon. Maybe the moon is projected onto the firmament? It's just speculation though.

Which leads us to the lunar landings. So much about this reeks. (9)I'm sure you've heard some stories about shadows going in different directions, flags blowing in the atmosphereless environment, how they. Or their equipment could possibly have survived in varying temperatures of 250 to -380° F! Rubber starts to crystallize at around 42° f they were joyriding, playing golf, and pitching life support packs out of the module.(which looks like a high school science project) and they are now national heroes. Psht.
The Sun
Is the Sun really 93 Brazilian miles away as NASA claims? It's supposed to be 400x bigger than the moon, but 400x further away than the moon. Right. (12)A high altitude baloon recorded a sunspot in some cloud cover about the size of the sun, directly under the sun, the sun was roughly overhead, but it appears that it was at about a 90° angle from the camera at it's apex. It was shot using a fisheye lens, and a regular lens. Which doesn't show any curvature.. Even close to the red bull dive cameras same height. which shows abnormal amounts of curvature, with the earth even curving outward at some points in the video. Ok maybe that isn't lying only misinterpretation. Lol

The whistle blowers
I'll just let them speak for themselves.(10)(11)(14)

I could go on, but if like to hear from con at this point

(1) http://www.nationalpost.com...;

(2) https://www.flickr.com...

(3)http://m.earthobservatory.nasa.gov...

(4) https://www.nasa.gov...

(5) http://www.windows2universe.org...

(6) http://www.vox.com...

(7) https://youtu.be...

(8) https://youtu.be...;

(9) https://www.google.com...;

(10) https://www.google.com...;

(11) https://youtu.be...

(12) https://youtu.be...

(13) https://youtu.be...

(14) https://youtu.be...
the_monster

Con

the_monster forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Edlvsjd

Pro

Conceded?
the_monster

Con

the_monster forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by ssadi 1 year ago
ssadi
It is a total forfeit debate, Con didn't provide any argument or rebuttal so that I could compare them. Therefore, I chose to vote only on conduct.
Posted by Edlvsjd 1 year ago
Edlvsjd
Thanks for voting although I think I should have got a point or two for sources and most convincing arguments as my opponent provided nothing
Posted by Edlvsjd 1 year ago
Edlvsjd
. Thanks for taking the time to vote
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro provided sources to support his arguments; Con did not. Pro participated in all three rounds; Con forfeited 2 turns.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con didn't made any arguments. Pro's only argument, which Con forfeited, has pictures, sources and explanation that proved his point in this topic.
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfeiture. Pro was the only one to make an argument. Therefore by default arguments to pro. Arguments were supported by multiple sources. While con forfeited and didn't use any sources. Therefore by default Sources to pro. Conduct to pro also for not forfeiting. Interesting debate. Although sadly a very one sided one.