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vanshu
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Ozzz169
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Is Obesity a Disease?

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Started: 12/31/2016 Category: Health
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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vanshu

Pro

American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP), in their 2013 publication "Diagnosis and Management of Obesity," available at aafp.org, stated:

"Overweight and obesity are chronic diseases with behavioral origins that can be traced back to childhood."
Ozzz169

Con

Thank you for the debate, I will argue that obesity is not a disease, rather it is a result of misinformation and poor public policy, as well as the consumption of sugar in specific and carbohydrates in particular, as a response to these change in guidelines. I will prove that the common energy balance is totally misunderstood, and is not relevant to obesity, and that it is hormonal drive.

Conventional Theory -

Gluttony and Sloth is the cause, in other words we eat to much and exercise to little. This absurd as completely ignores how the human body works, what we eat causes reactions within the body that drive biological processes. Furthermore, this is a tradgic situation as it literally blames the victim by calling them fat and lazy.

Analysis of Obesity from a carbohydrate perspective.

Obesity is STARVATION, let that sink in a second. Obese people are literally starving, they can not eat enough and are hungry all the time and hunger is one of the most powerful instincts in man. While this sounds like claim that is nonsensical it can be proven. When you understand how the human body works.

(note: it has been a while since I have argued this so going off memory for rough dates)
In the 1950's a very poor study was done concluding that Cholesteral was causing heart disease, and that we had to cut down on saturated fat. See good calories bad calories by Gary Taubes for a complete breakdown of this flawed study.

This eventually lead to a new generation following the dietary guidelines and eating less fat and replacing it with carbohydrates, and sugar consumption went way up. This change also lead to the food industry changing their products and cutting out fat which made the food taste terrible and to fix this they added sugar to almost everything and sugar consumption sky rocketed.

https://authoritynutrition.com... See chart one... notice the spike of consumption post 1950s when it had been dropping. This is a direct results of those policies enacted because of flawed cholesterol studies. Also note approximate 20 year lag in obesity and sugar consumption.

These are very important details. The obesity spike is a direct result of increase sugar and carbohydrate consumption, and the lag between the two I will explain shortly. First we have to explain why its not calories in - calories out.

Carbohydrates can not be stored like fats can be, and cause a blood sugar spike when they are consumed. The body must react to this as too high of blood sugar is very very bad for your health, as is commonly known. so the body releases insulin, again this is commonly known. Insulin forces cells to take up glucose and is the primary hormone in fat storage. So a healthy person wll get insulin and muscle adipose and other cells take up the extra glucose and burn it off.

What happens over time however is that tissues stop responding to insulin and it becomes harder and harder for the body to dispose of the excess glucose. This causes the liver to have to convert it to fat at very fast rates (which can lead to non-alcholic fatty liver disease). This process also leads to the abnormal cholesterol patterns observed in insulin resistant people (high triglycerides/low hdl).

So the majority of the food eaten is NOT USABLE by the body in obese people, and their body is literally starving, because the insulin is driving everything into he fat cells as its only means of removing glucose from the body. Eventually the body can not produce enough insulin to clear the glucose, and you have Type II diabetes.

So Obesity like so many other health problems (and other problems) in society is a result of poorly done science and irresponsible policies.

The solution of course is to lower carbohydrates, (and sometimes protein because of gluconeogenesis) to levels that the damaged body of obese people can handle, which in a lot of case is 30g or less a day.

Changing the guidelines and reducing carbohydrate and more importantly sugar, intakes will prevent the insulin resistants from forming in our younger people and the obesty epidemic would slowly correct itself.

It is easy to see how the current models fail when they are not taking into account what is actually happening and how the calories being consumed are actually being used by the body.
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Posted by vanshu 1 year ago
vanshu
Yeah if u want we can restart it.
Posted by Ozzz169 1 year ago
Ozzz169
If you want to restart it we can.
Posted by vanshu 1 year ago
vanshu
I am sorry I was not able to post my argument for round 2 as I had gone to England to spend my holidays.
Posted by Ozzz169 1 year ago
Ozzz169
This is getting more "philosophical" you could say that it does not matter the label but disease has specific meanings, and I am arguing that that is not the case here, and the meaning does not apply. Obesity is a SYMPTOM of an underlying problem, mainly insulin resistance cause by eating too much sugar/carbohydrates :)
Posted by zupermushy 1 year ago
zupermushy
obesity may or may not be a disease but how does it affect anything . like how does knowing it as labeled or not make you believe the time u spent was well used
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