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Is Romeo and Juliet a worthy candidate for an introductory play to Middle School students?

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Started: 3/5/2014 Category: Education
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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anonymous33321

Con

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Round two will be the thesis for each opponent
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AlphaBetaGamma

Pro

No, the essence of the play would not be captured because it contains mature material, and middle school students should not be acting it out.
Debate Round No. 1
anonymous33321

Con

First, I would like to thank my opponent for his timely response.
Second, I wish to point out that he has procured a response for the wrong side of the argument. As he is arguing the "Pro" side, he should defend having romeo and juliet in schools.

Now, to my thesis.

Schools, as a rule, will study a Shakespeare play so students can become familiar with the language and learn why his plays are the greatest. But, many schools choose Romeo and Juliet, which is one of the worst examples of the great writing of Shakespeare. The love, between two "starcrossed" teenagers, Romeo Montague and Juliet Capulet, is unrealistic and shallow. The characters, including the aforementioned Romeo and Juliet, along with Mercutio and Tybalt, are unconvincing and unclear. In fact, it begins to seem that starting with this play is the worst possible way to introduce young readers to Shakespeare, who are already struggling with Elizibethan language. Instead, a glorious example of the writing of Shakespeare, such as Hamlet or Macbeth is in order.
First, the unconvincing love between the offspring of two feuding houses, Romeo, from house Montague, and Juliet, from house Capulet. Despite the low quality of the infatuation described in the play, their love has come to be an example of love to the world. But, that is not a "situation devoutly to be wished." Their love, which starts with seeing each other across a room, and Romeo just off a "Rosaline," whom he left because she swore to be abstinent and never to marry, is not good at best. "And, in strong proof of chastity well arm'd, from love's weak childish bow she lives unharm'd" After he is suffering and feeling "choking gall" from his losing Rosaline because he was pressing for "things unchaste," he promptly goes to a dance, and sees Juliet. The instant infatuation, with just the way the other looks, is not true love. True, it may have progressed to something more while they get to know each other more, but it seems true love is thrown out the window when they get married the next day. The question is left to the actors or reader, is their love such, that they will die for each other, possible in the space of a day? Also, their shallow and "instant love" is a bad example to the teenage audience, as it is precisely not how you want to become interested in someone. "Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here! Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear, so soon forsaken? Young men's love then lies not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes." Even through the chiding of the good Friar Laurence, Romeo and Juliet still continue, to an untimely end. This is a terrible example of what love is and what love really means. So, their "doting, not loving" is unconvincing and not an example of good writing.
The characters in Romeo and Juliet are unconvincing and shallow. Romeo begins the play as a weeping and weak daydreamer. "Alas, that love, whose view is muffled still, should, without eyes, see pathways to his will! Where shall we dine? O me! What fray was here? Yet tell me not, for I have heard it all." He changes subjects, and is completely confused. He then proceeds to give lengthy speeches about nothing, except to sigh and whine about his lot in life. "Here's much to do with hate, but more with love. Why, then, O brawling love! O loving hate! O any thing, of nothing first create! O heavy lightness! Serious vanity!" He goes on, for approximately 30 lines, with brief interjections by Benvolio, about love and how his life is ruined. Besides a brief episode of bravery in which he kills his brother in law, Tybalt, he remains much the same throughout the play. Juliet, even though the most believable of all the characters, is still very clich". Her mother wishes her to marry a man, Paris, who though desireable, is not within her interest. She resists, and secretly love's Romeo. While this is one of the first stories to be written with this story line, that has become the clich" story for love. Juliet, because of this, becomes less of a unique and interesting character. She becomes clich", which dulls any sharpness she would have in the first place.
AlphaBetaGamma

Pro

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Debate Round No. 2
anonymous33321

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I await my opponents response.
AlphaBetaGamma

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Debate Round No. 3
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