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Is "Seperation of Church and State" actually true?

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Started: 1/21/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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mwwrightNC

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Well Church is part of a religion, specifically Christianity. So with Christianity in mind; God gives us his Torah or in English Law to follow. So who's not to say when President Obama is presented with a topic such as, Abortion or Homosexuality Marriage, he may think to his Christian beliefs. So it seems the answer is atheist's, but that also is wrong, because if you go with this definition of religion "an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group" (Merriam-Webster) then that also fits the mold of religion. So do you think "Separation of Church and State" is a null-in void statement? Or do you think the opposite?
Tophatdoc

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First, I would like to thank Pro for hosting this debate. And I would also like to welcome him to DDO sinc this appears to be his first debate.

The "Seperation of Church and State" relates to the powers of an organized religion forced on the State. For example, how the Catholic Church used to be able coronate monarchs in Europe and order them on Cursades[1]. An example of this would be how in the Islamic world Muslims would obey the wishes of Imams. The phrase "Seperation of Church and State" relates to how in many countries in the past would take orders religious leaders. This is not the case in modern America because we have the "Seperation of Church and State."

[1]http://pirate.shu.edu...

"So who's not to say when President Obama is presented with a topic such as, Abortion or Homosexuality Marriage, he may think to his Christian beliefs."

Obama is exercising his personal beliefs in the way he wishes. He is not taking direct orders from his church(at least that I know of).

"So do you think "Separation of Church and State" is a null-in void statement? Or do you think the opposite?"

No, the "Seperation of Church and State" is not a null-void statement. American political leaders don't take orders from religious leaders. An example of a country without the "Seperation of Church and State would be Iran or the Vatican. Iran is considered an Islamic Republic that is controlled by the Ayatollahs[2]. Vatican City is directly under the control of the Catholic Church[3]. The United States is not governed by any church nor is its' leaders taking orders from a church.

[2]http://www.irantracker.org...
[3]http://www.politicalsystems.com...
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